Gunbird wrote:OK, I think this discussion is going off the road a bet.
Shgon and other people made there point that would gain to do any operations in the MA would because there would be no gain from it. And because of that I don't see the point in adding the surface races (whether Fae or non-fae). They don't seem to keen on turning their nations into republics or democracies, especially the Hermionne and Light elves.
Honestly, the light elves seem like perhaps the biggest issue with human/drow interactions where the humans have the initiative. I mean... They are just all around easier to deal with. "Get to" even. They might not have all the drows mana-tech, but... That stuff is useless to the humans anyway. While the light elves
do still have mana for humans to study.
Also If the portal from their world opens in two hours we would more likely just save the captives then try to seal up or destroy that for. This is what so my uncle was in the Navy said.
I forgot to mention that reason I posted this thread to get some ideas for a sort of portal fantasy Fanfic. But I changed my mind about it and went for a more original setting. I couldn't find a good reason to open such of gate, nor I can find a way to make such a gate that is believable in the moonless age world. (Only demons come out of the gates.)
Im sorry I didn't mention that in the first place.
Been there.
First even
heard of DT in a Vs that had it up against the Wheel of Time setting. Then spent pretty much all of my first read through trying to brainstorm ways to get a crossover between the two to work...
At the end of the day most of what I got was that, much like WoT itself really, as fun and interesting as it might sound to crossover the characters and culture. DT doesn't really crossover with other settings very well. For a lot of different reasons.
Lets see... Like a lot of settings quite logically end up, it's magic system is built around combating
itself. With tactics and counter tactics to that effect. The issue there is... What happens if the other side uses something completely unlike mana? Or hell, they
do, but then have no conceivable way of countering demons? You end up with a lot of the drows powers either being completely useless, of just an out and out "I win" button.
Oh, but what about everything else they can do with mana? It isn't just anti-mana spells and the like... Only DT is in the grand scheme of things a rather low firepower setting, and even worse, is really light on anything particularly Hax. Which in turn leaves them with rather limited options when up
against Hax. As an example "Hax". WoT's channelers(mages) have the ability to turn air solid. They basically use it like telekinesis. Moving things, holding people, bubble shields, etc. The point? Said solid air just flat out ignores all physical force applied to it... What is a drow even supposed to "do" to that kind of thing without anti-magic? Most mana combat deals with different forms of blasting things.
Then you have things like their low population. Complete reliance on mana to live. Their mana-tech's
even greater reliance on mana to work. And even their culture itself...
Their culture... Even ignoring the whole "they're evil" thing, there is the
BIG reason "who would beat who" rather maters with them... About the only way they are
ever going to take a human seriously as an equal is if they are grabbed violently by the throat and
made to. Slave? Sure. Mercenary? Why not. Underling? Maybe. But complete
equal? They have a hard enough time seeing
each other as that.
Which of course... Leads to it's own problems fic wise. The same ones this thread has already been talking about really. As if someone is strong enough to do that, whether by personal power or with an army, they... Can likely walk all over the drow, with the drow being able to do little about it.
If they can't... They are likely to accomplish next to nothing. Hell, they have a
decent chance of ending up getting eaten.
Thus a fic would basically have to walk a tightrope of the one crossing over with them being strong enough for there to even
be a plot, but at the same time there actually being
some form of story past "and then they got their way in all things. Petty the drow who tried to say otherwise".
As for making something actually work... Have played around with the idea of perhaps a small group being "Island in the Sea of Time"'d into DT's underworld, and then building up a following among the drow commoners. Effectively forming a clan... But at the end of the day it would seem to fall into the same issue of "conquer or be conquered" as any other... As that largely has more to do with the drow themselves then anything. Personally I think the key is setting that can actually work
with mana rather then against it. Something like Korra or Naruto. Either one plopped down with/in place of Valeria in the story would lead to... Interesting things. Korra would definitely be the more "balanced" being fairly on par with the drow outside of Avatar state. Naruto wouldn't be that bad if taken from like his training trip. Then just have him go back home about the DT time skip, only to return after it... As basically an untouchable godlike being who wants to help bring peace to the drow
without just forcing it on them... What with that being completely against his beliefs and all.
... But really, the "fun" thing about crossing DT over with Naruto, would simply be that on top of perhaps being able to mix chakra and mana like Sage Energy. Chakra is contagious. If someone with it links theirs with someone without the ability to mix their physical and spiritual energies, said linking gives them the ability to learn
how to. Which would
really mix things up in DT.
As far as opening gates and the like... It's not really
that hard. When all else fails, there is always the "it just happens" approach like with Island in the Sea of Time. Or even just have some random drow simply think of another way of opening a portal, and... What do you know, it works. With WoT I played around with the idea of the drow finding a Portal Stone(think of it like a cross-dimensional teleporter) and simply being able to get it to work with mana.
Or hell, what is simply the biggest most arrogant most out and out
stupid conceit of the drow. That only
they can open such things, and that
nothing in
all the multiverse is EVER going to either notice are care that they are doing it...
(Off
topic you say?
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