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SA: Renegade Version

Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby ThatGuyThisGuy » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:11 am

They can survive as long as they swallow their pride and keep their heads down and stay out of the way of the big boys like Scrin, Reapers, Council, and GDI.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby aceofAces » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:27 am

ThatGuyThisGuy wrote:They can survive as long as they swallow their pride and keep their heads down and stay out of the way of the big boys like Scrin, Reapers, Council, and GDI.

Or perhaps join the Citadel to petition the Council for protection and support from the Council races. I'd imagine they'd be a bit miffed about the Treaty of Farixen (because they have a strong martial tradition from what we've seen in SA) and from having to put a stopper on continual AI research (I think their current AI tech is fine and shouldn't be affected by it much considering they seem to behave more like VIs than true Artificial Intelligence). I think going it alone would be near suicidal considering there's both the Reapers AND the Scrin to deal with, plus a much more powerful and militaristic humanity in the GDI.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby aceofAces » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:06 am

Obsidian Agent wrote:-snip-

My point exactly, The Drow would be better served making allies rather than enemies. At least early on as they establish themselves in this new universe. I mean people can knock the Citadel all they like but they likely have the largest combined territory and the largest armed forces (granted I've not read the fanfic so I dunno if this is still true) what with the turians and their massive hard-ons for producing a stupid amount of warships. I'd say that the Drow would likely want to stick with the guys with the largest combined resources as long-term that's the safest bet.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby Gunbird » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:48 am

Obsidian Agent wrote:When have Drow EVER been known to swallow their pride? :P


I think there been a few time in SA were they did swallow there pride.I think it was the 4 chapter. But you have to get a subscription in daydream to see it. 8P

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Obsidian Agent wrote:-snip-


The SA version of Naal is a augmented assassin. She acutely killed a hole room of enemies with spider arm like lasers.

And look I found on Space battles. https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads ... ge.264757/
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby razer666L » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:40 pm

Gunbird wrote:And look I found on Space battles. https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads ... ge.264757/

Dude, that Vs. Debate thread of mine was one-sided in favor of the drow due to not having a balanced and well-established rules in the OP. Please ignore that thread. XD ^^;

Anyway, while I know the author Peptuck who's pretty well-known in Spacebattles, his fics just kinda not my taste. They're good, no doubt about that but just not my taste. *hmmm*

In regards to drow in Renegade 'verse, I think it would be wise to join the Citadel. They'd be irritated by the Treaty of Farixen and regulations on AIs, yes. On the other hand, the drow would see large amount of potential corporate interests and alien investments. That, and not becoming a good target for pirates, slavers, criminal organizations and evil megacorporations from the Terminus Systems.

The Citadel Races are a huge untapped source of wealth, possessing entire worlds suiting the needs of corporate powers looking to expand their influence and a free market with relaxed economic policies that could result in a large influx of merchants, investors and tourists into drow space. While a significant portion of the drow populace would see a greater opportunity in dealing business with aliens that offer higher chance of income than anywhere else in drow space.

Main points:
- Joining the Citadel is voluntary; the drow could still have trade & diplomatic ties with the Citadel while not being part of it. But they'd get the perks of having an alliance with one of the most powerful military in the galaxy, plus with significant economic development if the drow joins the Citadel.

- Tourism booms in drow space, easily becoming one of the fastest growing source of income.

- Alien investments are too beneficial to ignore and so you'll start seeing some asari, volus or any Citadel race but the batarians* at the next executive corporate meeting.

*: Unless the batarian is just a representative acting on behalf of his/her multi-racial investors or corporation, not a citizen of Batarian Hegemony and not adhering to his/her race's mainstream caste-based culture, along with slavery.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby ThatGuyThisGuy » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:15 pm

razer666L wrote:Dude, that Vs. Debate thread of mine was one-sided in favor of the drow due to not having a balanced and well-established rules in the OP. Please ignore that thread. XD ^^;


It was only one-sided according to Q99 who blatantly ignored all of Mass effects advantages and because we never really found out just what a node is.

Like the fact against targets in a fixed path Mass Drivers have unlimited range and since early Drow lack sensors that can detect Mass Effect races, the Mass Effect races could easily preform massive alpha strikes against the Drow by launching large volleys of nuclear level projectiles from massive distances(remember ME ships can fire their guns every two seconds) that would nearly impossible for the Drow to detect and could easily devastate almost any structure or ship they have.

The 100,000 or so kilometers range estimate given is against active enemy ships and its mainly because beyond that range most any ship will be able to easily outmaneuver the incoming fire(Which says allot about ME's sensor and computer Technology as well.).

Or the fact ME(especially the System Alliance) Fighter tactics and technology are very well suited against Drow ships.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby Gunbird » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:18 pm

Kind of think about it, There really not that much information on the Drow compared to ME. This debate is now starting to sound vary dumb now. :/
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby razer666L » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:06 am

Gunbird wrote:Kind of think about it, There really not that much information on the Drow compared to ME. This debate is now starting to sound vary dumb now. :/

Yeah, about that... How many colonies and star systems the drow have under their control in Space Age? That, and how fast is their FTL drive?
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby Gunbird » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:41 am

A Five star systems? I don't remember anything like that.Were did you herd that from.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby razer666L » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:29 am

Question: Is this the same Space Age drow that have technologically (and culturally) inferior humans living in the reserves on drow homeworld*?

*: What's the name of the homeworld again?
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby Gunbird » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:18 pm

Funny enough they call it earth too. I can't remember what page it says that.

Edit: Here was a another thread form almost 5 years ago.viewtopic.php?f=88&t=16873

This is what Junglefowl26 side about the lack of details of the tech in DT.

I don't think there are any technical details. I mean, one side has ships that literally run on magic....plus, it is kind of ecchi/comedy/space opera, so tech isn't a major focus, not the details at any rate.


And here is a little fact from suntiger745 about the choose you story/porno.

I wouldn't read too much into the tech though. The readers vote on options in daydream and Slavemasters can insert options too.
To illustrate: I remember the first drow/dirt hume ship fight. At first there was a vote to have the drow do massive damage easily. That annoyed some people and the next winning option was to have the dirt humes do massive damage easily.
Or the other way around.

The point is, what the tech can do, on both sides, isn't consistent. It is thus hard to define what the tech actually can and can't do, since the winning option can adjust or even outright contradict what has happened before (though we do try to avoid the later when writing the script).


So I have to agree the info about tech in SA is about as important as the plot in deep throat.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby razer666L » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:13 am

Gunbird wrote:Funny enough they call it earth too. I can't remember what page it says that.

So I have to agree the info about tech in SA is about as important as the plot in deep throat.

IIRC, didn't Expy-Ariel scoff at the name of the Dirt Humes' homeworld during the interrogation?

"Who in their right mind would call their homeworld the same word as -Dirt- anyway!?"

If we want to balance the drow's starship weaponry with Mass Effect's, at least put them in the kiloton yield similar to ME's when writing an ME/Space Age fanfic.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby Gunbird » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:59 am

razer666L wrote:
If we want to balance the drow's starship weaponry with Mass Effect's, at least put them in the kiloton yield similar to ME's when writing an ME/Space Age fanfic.


Like Jungle and Suntiger side, there is no data about any of the tech. It's a hentai comic for crying out loud!

Anything about the drows military capabilities has to be made up.
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby razer666L » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:18 am

Gunbird wrote:Like Jungle and Suntiger side, there is no data about any of the tech. It's a hentai comic for crying out loud!

Anything about the drows military capabilities has to be made up.

Still, how would a first contact situation occur in the story for the drow? Would it be similar to the canon comic but with some changes? Like the unknown forces that attacked the drow research outpost and space station were the Nod, while the ship that drow encountered and boarded was actually a damaged GDI cruiser?

Or would it be something different, Obsidian Agent?
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Re: SA: Renegade Version

Postby Gunbird » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:33 pm

How about this. The drow are exploring a new system when they discover a mass relay (And use mama on it, instead of E-0 ). Just like the humans in MA, they try to activate any relay they can get there hands on. And also like the humans, there going to be a Citadel race (races) that are going to be unhappy.

If its the turians, there going to something simerler to the First Contact War. If it the humans, I really don’t know. Would the GDI be more peaceful? Then agin the Nod would try to trick the GDI and the Drow to fight each other. Still I the Citadel Council will tell to stop the war.
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