Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby DeadPigeonGolem » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:50 am

YUSSSS


I would prefer if the Deme'dichi kicked more asses along the way, but what you have there is enough to demonstrate Deme'dichi military behaviour. It would be nice if you could include how the Deme'dichi established a branch of the Bank and began extending lines of credit for the rebuilding of the Bazaar post-riots, as that is a highly probable Deme'dichi course of action.

However, this is enough for me to go on for my summary, so THANK YOU.
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Junglefowl26 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:15 pm

Awesome!
I wish I had something more concrete to say, but I just really liked it very much! *wee*
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Kail'odian » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:03 pm

DeadPigeonGolem wrote:YUSSSS


I would prefer if the Deme'dichi kicked more asses along the way, but what you have there is enough to demonstrate Deme'dichi military behavior. It would be nice if you could include how the Deme'dichi established a branch of the Bank and began extending lines of credit for the rebuilding of the Bazaar post-riots, as that is a highly probable Deme'dichi course of action.

However, this is enough for me to go on for my summary, so THANK YOU.



No offense meant, but you can't have it all Deadpigeongolem. ^^; Now I might be on the Vir'reska side of the equation, but from as unbiased a point of view I can muster, the role of kicking lots of ass was not truly the main point of your clan - instead helping to settle and establish the banking and loan system after some semblance of control had been regained by the coalition. That said, I thought the Deme'dichi clan section was perfect. Just my opinion. ^^


Pitdragon wrote:Ok, slept on it long enough. Check out full text, and I'll send small fix for the blurb after it has been eyed.

The Vir'reska take up the position of ensuring the city keeps calm and holds the responsibility to close the Bazaar again if the other clans fail in the Coalition drive, moving in to aid in the control of the Bazaar once the crowd dispersal is done and curfews are starting. The Vir'reska having a wary feeling about the Ailee I thought of after re-reading the Vir'reska history again and pondering on the how the Vir'reska had their own identity issues long ago until the Ill'har was able to bring the groups together into becoming the clan. Also, given the variety of culture for each clan, the Coalition would look iffy from the start. The insular nature of both the Vir'reska and the Qin'dalesque reflect in this caution over joining, and as an established clan with Council voice, I'd see the Vir'reska more dictating their use while the other two clans might be more pliable to get their feet in the door. By the time of the Council, the four clans have their issues with one another perhaps (given the Reputation chart), but they are more interested in doing what it takes to keep Raveran running.



I really like the summary Pitdragon. Given the nature of their own concerns after taking former illhardro land [aka, bolstering positions and defending against Kyorl intrusions/patrols] the layout and reactions of the Vir'reska are pretty much spot on throughout the first half of the summary. I also appreciate the depth of thought you had with the Vir'reskian history in relation to how the Coalition would look to them from the Rhino point of view. They indeed would be quite cautious at first when the Coalition would initially propose to them.

After everything was said and done though, sure they would have issues with each other but it would be small enough to keep focused on making sure Raveran would survive, to keep the riots from happening again and to help keep the influence of the *visiting* clans [including the Illhardro/Nuqhran delegation] limited and from interfering with the goals of the Ravenite Coalition.

So as far as Vir'reska involvement is concerned, don't change a thing. I like it. :D
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Pariel » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:38 pm

Hmm, I just reread and saw a passing reference to defecting Qin'dalasque. I'll simply hold on to that, and add that the Qin "defectors" actually have more stuff behind it. But you'll have to wait for the full writeup. (Which I'll get to as soon as real life gives me enough of a break). 8P
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Pitdragon » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:58 am

Pariel wrote:Hmm, I just reread and saw a passing reference to defecting Qin'dalasque. I'll simply hold on to that, and add that the Qin "defectors" actually have more stuff behind it. But you'll have to wait for the full writeup. (Which I'll get to as soon as real life gives me enough of a break). 8P


Ooo. Intaresting. I can fix up that reference if it poses an issue though. ;)

Also, DPG, that explanation was about as long as it could get. I'm partly leaving up specifics of it all to players/Clan creators. If the four clan creators wanna RP the coalition meeting that's cool too, so specifics could get wrought out there. Also left some stuff open to let RPers interpret the reputation grid. Glad it's going over well. :)
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby DeadPigeonGolem » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:38 pm

Kail'odian wrote:

No offense meant, but you can't have it all Deadpigeongolem. ^^; Now I might be on the Vir'reska side of the equation, but from as unbiased a point of view I can muster, the role of kicking lots of ass was not truly the main point of your clan - instead helping to settle and establish the banking and loan system after some semblance of control had been regained by the coalition. That said, I thought the Deme'dichi clan section was perfect. Just my opinion. ^^




You're right, of course. It's just sorta how you want to see something you made be as awesome as possible, y'know?

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Pariel wrote:Hmm, I just reread and saw a passing reference to defecting Qin'dalasque. I'll simply hold on to that, and add that the Qin "defectors" actually have more stuff behind it. But you'll have to wait for the full writeup. (Which I'll get to as soon as real life gives me enough of a break). 8P


Ooo. Intaresting. I can fix up that reference if it poses an issue though. ;)

Also, DPG, that explanation was about as long as it could get. I'm partly leaving up specifics of it all to players/Clan creators. If the four clan creators wanna RP the coalition meeting that's cool too, so specifics could get wrought out there. Also left some stuff open to let RPers interpret the reputation grid. Glad it's going over well. :)


On that note, the RP thread needs to get started....
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Kail'odian » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:49 am

DeadPigeonGolem wrote:On that note, the RP thread needs to get started....


Yeah, did you msg Syionx that there was an rp relating to the coalition meeting?

Truthfully, why not just have the rest of us start the rp. If someone can't make it, that's fine. The rest who can RP the thread could start, and just go from there. =)


**EDIT:
DPg, and everyone else for the coalition, I'm going to start and make a post in that coalition thread since no one else has yet. I know real life, time and inspiration doesn't always permit a post of any quality, but its time it finally got started.
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Sionyx » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:00 am

HOW do things manage to keep happening here right when I get too dang busy to notice?

DPG poked me via PM to let me know I should be paying attention again, so I'm currently going through ideas in my head for how to portray Galaver'ele and Ir'ele in the council. Hopefully I'll be able to get a post off tomorrow on the Freestyle thread.

Y'know, at first I found the idea laughable that anyone would think that the Khevlani (well, that's how I think of them) would try to absorb other clans, then I realized that their open attitude to just about everyone could well be interpreted that way. The clan has a long history of being exposed to multiple cultures and what they'd call being friendly could well come across to other clans as "they're up to something..."

A note about how the Khevlani would see the Aqrab'Akkar. Unless the Aqrab have been involved in an attack on Raveran that I'm unaware of, the Khevlani would actually be cautiously welcoming to them, with Ir'ele in the lead of that attitude. The problems with the Black Sun back on the surface were a LONG time ago, after all...though it does also get into things I know in my head that I haven't shared because I have no clue if it actually fits in with the established setting. There's plenty Kern just isn't able to tell us in the story as presented.

And a warning for when I get my part of the RP going: Ir'ele Ailee'Khevlani is a tactical genius. I...am not. Writing her contributions to the planning will likely take this lack into account - I tend to write around tactical details and let the reader work out just how it went by what the results are. I'll see what I can come up with!
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Pitdragon » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:05 am

Yeah, I tossed in the BS thing just in case memories were long (though every clan would eye the Aqrab a bit I'd wager, BS don't exactly get welcomed with open arms over most of the Underworld and I'm sure that past association won't be easy to shake for the Scorpions). I can trim that out, if need be.
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Thalar » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:58 pm

Yosh!
Have I told you guys how much I love you?

Okay, that may be the fever speaking. But I'm gonna do my very best to complete the final event and the locations this weekend. With the new race informations I've snuck into some of the threads here (have you noticed? :3) most things should be in place after that.

Once that is done I will give the clan relations chart one final adjustment, if necessary, so please let me know if anything I've got your clan thinking of another clan is wrong or needs adjustment!

Also, if you haven't submitted your short clan summary to me yet please do so before Saturday :)
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby DeadPigeonGolem » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:44 pm

*eek*

Shit.

Well, that RP just went straight out the window.
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Kail'odian » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:19 am

DeadPigeonGolem wrote:*eek*

Shit.

Well, that RP just went straight out the window.



XD

Well we can always RP our illhars after the worldsetting details have all been put in place. ^^;
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Junglefowl26 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:39 pm

Excellent update PitDragon, I really enjoyed it!

Hmm, I just reread and saw a passing reference to defecting Qin'dalasque. I'll simply hold on to that, and add that the Qin "defectors" actually have more stuff behind it. But you'll have to wait for the full writeup.

Oh cool there was something I wanted to talk about with you.

Originally something I was thinking about for my clan was that some of the younger members of it were being seduced by settled luxuries - particularly the Qin's casinos and taverns, and that because of this, they would be the Ravenite clan the Aqrab had the most connections with.

Since you created the clan, I wanted to get your approval before adding any such details to my description though...plus, the Qin's "fall" would require changes anyway.

Which I'll get to as soon as real life gives me enough of a break

I know the feeling.

A note about how the Khevlani would see the Aqrab'Akkar. Unless the Aqrab have been involved in an attack on Raveran that I'm unaware of, the Khevlani would actually be cautiously welcoming to them, with Ir'ele in the lead of that attitude. The problems with the Black Sun back on the surface were a LONG time ago, after all...though it does also get into things I know in my head that I haven't shared because I have no clue if it actually fits in with the established setting. There's plenty Kern just isn't able to tell us in the story as presented.

Interesting. I am used to drow holding long grudges, but it certainly helps explain why the Aqrab would be invited to the coalition in the first place.


And a warning for when I get my part of the RP going: Ir'ele Ailee'Khevlani is a tactical genius. I...am not. Writing her contributions to the planning will likely take this lack into account - I tend to write around tactical details and let the reader work out just how it went by what the results are. I'll see what I can come up with!

Same here. I made my leader a smooth talker and an excellent reader of people...about the exact opposite of myself...

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We love you too! You are the bestest GM evar!

With the new race informations I've snuck into some of the threads here (have you noticed?

Alas I have not. Which threads are these?

Once that is done I will give the clan relations chart one final adjustment, if necessary, so please let me know if anything I've got your clan thinking of another clan is wrong or needs adjustment!

Since all the clan founders are in this thread, anyone feel up for deciding how our clans feel about each other?
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Sionyx » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:41 am

Junglefowl26 wrote:
A note about how the Khevlani would see the Aqrab'Akkar. Unless the Aqrab have been involved in an attack on Raveran that I'm unaware of, the Khevlani would actually be cautiously welcoming to them, with Ir'ele in the lead of that attitude. The problems with the Black Sun back on the surface were a LONG time ago, after all...though it does also get into things I know in my head that I haven't shared because I have no clue if it actually fits in with the established setting. There's plenty Kern just isn't able to tell us in the story as presented.

Interesting. I am used to drow holding long grudges, but it certainly helps explain why the Aqrab would be invited to the coalition in the first place.

Well, it's not like the Ailee'Khevlani would have welcomed the Aqrab with open arms. While I've been assuming that the council meeting we barely got started RPing is on neutral ground, if it's at the Ailee stronghold they'd be counting the silver when the Aqrab leave. And I do realize that the Ailee method of being accepting of other cultures and clans is far from typical for the drow, but there are reasons for the view in the clan's backstory and it's been a very effective tactic for the clan. The elders of the Ailee'Khevlani may not be particularly thrilled about the Aqrab's presence in Raveran, but the clan as a whole would be, as I said, cautiously welcoming, especially as the Aqrab behave themselves and make generally good neighbors. Pitdragon nailed it when he said that Ir'ele would be the one pushing for more friendly relations with the Aqrab, due in part because of the Aqrab's military abilities. And with Serrai, the Clan Heir, making plans for a return to the surface, she's been making friends with those clans who would have experience to share, and the Black Sun have been known to spend time on the surface.

It would be better to refer to the Ailee as nervous re: the Aqrab rather than scared. By the end of the coalition's bazaar work, that nervousness would be mostly gone. After all, the Aqrab are willing to lead the way into a riot that has been raging for two weeks and has defied all efforts to quell. They're willing to do this for a city that doesn't fully accept them. They'll have more trust from the Ailee because they've earned it, dammit.

Once that is done I will give the clan relations chart one final adjustment, if necessary, so please let me know if anything I've got your clan thinking of another clan is wrong or needs adjustment!

Since all the clan founders are in this thread, anyone feel up for deciding how our clans feel about each other?

I'm up for that! Just gotta get this bug to let go of my brain...
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Re: Setting: Raveran year 1114 (feedback thread)

Postby Kail'odian » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:11 am

Sionyx wrote:
Once that is done I will give the clan relations chart one final adjustment, if necessary, so please let me know if anything I've got your clan thinking of another clan is wrong or needs adjustment!

Since all the clan founders are in this thread, anyone feel up for deciding how our clans feel about each other?

I'm up for that! Just gotta get this bug to let go of my brain...



I can't say for anyone else but I do have what I think an appropriate clan relations for the Vir'reskian views on the other clans. This takes into account the history of every clan, the bazaar riots and coalition work, to the current state of the clans in Raveran, etc.


Vir'reska Clan Views on:

Ailee'Khevlani: Favorable *
Aqrab'akkar: Favorable *
Balvhakara: Neutral
Beldrobbaen: Neutral
Deme'deichi: Favorable *
Dusk: Bad
Illhar'dro: Bad
Jie'yen: Neutral
Kyorl'solenurn: Bad
Nal'sarkoth: Neutral
Qin'dalasque: Friendly
Sarghress: Neutral
Vlozress: Neutral


The Favorable statue by the three Raveran clans is a result of the coalition work they did with the Vir'reska. Better than neutral but not all the way trusting like the Vir'reska are with what remains of their closest ally, the Qin's.

That's my side of things. ^^
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