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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Sonor Val'Illhar'dro on Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:37 am

Bringing Milli along for trade. The goods I assume we have include wine, honey, silk, and for added measure, mana plant seeds. Luxury goods that will fetch a high price anywhere we go.

Hopefully there's a market somewhere on this sky island...
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Leonis on Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:11 pm

We also have FISH! This far from lakes and what not that might be VERY valuable if the dragons like Fish as much as Milli seems to think that they do.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby goblin6 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:21 pm

Leonis wrote:We also have FISH! This far from lakes and what not that might be VERY valuable if the dragons like Fish as much as Milli seems to think that they do.


She's basing her fish idea from regular dragons (who are used as beast of burdens) she sees from Shashi. Treat them like an equal individual, not animals. These dragons probably have their own source of meat, they ain't going to go gaga from some fish that are not as filling as beef or pork.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Tohya on Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:28 pm

You trade things you have a lot of to someone that does not. If they don't have much fish, then trading it would be a good idea. Its like shipping seafood from a coastal town far inland. To someone who hasn't had it before or rarely has access to it, seafood is more valuable.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby H'K'Maly on Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:17 pm

goblin6 wrote:
Leonis wrote:We also have FISH! This far from lakes and what not that might be VERY valuable if the dragons like Fish as much as Milli seems to think that they do.


She's basing her fish idea from regular dragons (who are used as beast of burdens) she sees from Shashi. Treat them like an equal individual, not animals. These dragons probably have their own source of meat, they ain't going to go gaga from some fish that are not as filling as beef or pork.


It may not be as filling, but what if they consider it delicacy? Hard to say.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Whizzard on Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:36 pm

We have found a common language. Sort of.

Time to earn their trust and create connections. I just hope they are not too xenophobic.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby James Rye on Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:40 pm

Let's hope that they´re a bit greedy though so that they want our trading goods and are ready to open trade with us cuase they could get more of that stuff from the two worlds below thanks to us.^^
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby goblin6 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:45 pm

If they're anything like drows and elves, which we share a common ancestry, then good luck with that. Elves in DT have not been the nicest bunch. First we need to apologize for Dycle's folly follow by an introduction.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Finn MacCool on Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:44 pm

i think answering the dragons' questions is more important. especially since the guys we're now talking to probably don't even know about dycle (yet).
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby goblin6 on Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:48 pm

Finn MacCool wrote:i think answering the dragons' questions is more important. especially since the guys we're now talking to probably don't even know about dycle (yet).

They won't know yet. The dragon soldier will tell his superiors about it soon. Best to show some courtesy and humility and show apologize now instead of wait for them to bring it up.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Timotheus on Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:21 pm

I think we should organize a pinocle game on the wing of the glider below deck for everyone who can't do anything while this story arc is playing out. Drow and Ferals.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Finn MacCool on Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:15 pm

goblin6 wrote:
Finn MacCool wrote:i think answering the dragons' questions is more important. especially since the guys we're now talking to probably don't even know about dycle (yet).

They won't know yet. The dragon soldier will tell his superiors about it soon. Best to show some courtesy and humility and show apologize now instead of wait for them to bring it up.

i didn't say we shouldn't do it, just that the questions should be answered first. i doubt that the soldier will interrupt his superiors.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby Halj on Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:24 am

I suppose that's everyone at this point. Its gone squarely into NPCs talking to one another.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby minalia on Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:13 pm

Not true at all.

Our npc's have special abilities and talents but they tend not to use those unless we ask them to use it or the plots forces us to use their abilities since sometimes we tend to forget that so and so is a trained scholar like our queen is a huge book nerd.

I for one intend to work closely with Anjhali on attempting to build the seed of a commercial trade deal by learning what the dragons desperately need but might be to damn prideful to admit they need it in public but will only reveal it close doors.
Remember politics is all about making secret deals and not revealing anything about those deals to anyone who is not involved in such deals. This is also where the Nals backing on those trading negotiation and trading caravan will come into play. Sure we might have more airships then the nals but they got the contacts we need to get this trading business started.

OF course this will not be easy, we might be forced and dragged in a possible dragon related conflict in order to prove that we are worth their time. Actions are worth more then words after all in drowtales.
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Re: Dragon diplomacy.

Postby goblin6 on Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:39 pm

That's if there is a problem the dragons have to begin with other then us. Even then, like real life politics, things don't always pan out the way you want them too. We could do them favors, doesn't automatically means they'll give us what we want. We might get a reward, but I rather keep my expectations low as to avoid disappointment incase the reward isn't all that.

And these dragons are probably hardcore isolationist to remain undetected from the outside world for so long, So I also don't expect them to warm up to us in a day or even a year. DT is a bit of a cynical world and most of its denizens even more so. But I believe that isolationism the dragons have going on is going to be the biggest obstacle in attempting to establish trade and getting them to fork over any tech or relics they may have. While there's benefits to trade with the outside world, there's also risks.

In the dragon's point of view, their existence will be expose to the world or so they'll believe. We're going to need more then just promise of trade goods to convince the dragon's to abandon their millennium old belief of isolation. If we cause any problems, that will just harden their belief in cutting themselves further from the world. All in all, we might not walk out with any advance tech or treasure, but I'll be satisfied if we leave the dragon's island as allies carrying some knowledge of the dragon's history and culture.
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