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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby thealbinobutterfly on Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:35 am

:A yeah but, like, i'm hiding behind a bush, dude.

a bush.


let's make with the stabby stabby after me and my volunteers get back.

anyway:

xenon wrote:ahoy!

i would actually like one of the ferals to go, the one in specific,w ho had good repor with a nal inside already. it seems to make the most sense to have that happen, to me, anyway.

The rest of us, i want everyone else to fall back and regroup with the ship, and let anjhali know what is going on.


this is my suggestion. :>
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Durlyn Val'Sarghress on Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:14 am

Well, is there another Nal outpost nearby besides this one? I mean, do we have a means of contacting them to warn them of the possible trouble at one of their bases? Or is it really all a matter of deciding whether to leave or stay? I was under the assumption Mili didn't have a means of contacting her kin from the ship, or that this base had a neighbor we could consult.


So basically, if there is a way of warning our allies and figuring out whats really going on without endangering the ship and its crew, then I'm cool with that before we devote ourselves to a military action or a strategic withdrawal (hopefully this isn't all a Nal deception or else we'll be in double the danger by alerting them). It all really depends on whether they value OUR ship more than they do our alliance (I don't want to think ill of them since we've been allies for a while, I just don't wanna be naive either). If we can't contact or alert any CONFIRMED Nals, then we should probably leave the fort alone for now, fly away, and get in touch with the right authorities later, or retake the fort after adding more weapons to the ship.

P.S. judging by the LA, aren't Xenon and the rest already back from their first excursion?
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Catriana on Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:25 am

thealbinobutterfly wrote::A yeah but, like, i'm hiding behind a bush, dude.

a bush.


let's make with the stabby stabby after me and my volunteers get back.

anyway:

xenon wrote:ahoy!

i would actually like one of the ferals to go, the one in specific,w ho had good repor with a nal inside already. it seems to make the most sense to have that happen, to me, anyway.

The rest of us, i want everyone else to fall back and regroup with the ship, and let anjhali know what is going on.


this is my suggestion. :>


So should there be an advice for the rest of us to fall back? I'm just curious so I know what to look out/vote for.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby minalia on Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:01 am

Just deal with any possible hostile observer that will launch flares to tell their ballista team where to shoot their artillery strike at where our airship could be located. They got a ballista already directed at our general landing zone. We lift off and a observer throws a flare. We got a good chance of being forced to do a emergency landing and then have to fight a invading party while we undergo emergency repairs.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby suntiger745 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:22 am

Just checked the leader script: Both teams have returned to the ship in the last panel.
Just isn't clearly shown.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Tohya on Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:39 am

Leonis wrote:BTW Welcome back Toyha. Haven't seen you in a while. Or maybe I've just not been paying attention. That happens too.


I've been here the whole time, just not doing much besides voting. :p

I would like to point out that if the Nals loose their base, it will limit the amount of support they can give us. So it is in our interest that they keep it, so that they can keep their half of the agreement to protect the airbase.

Also as the Minians are far to the east of us and the base they are supposedly attacking should be to the west of us. Being surrounded by Mins isn't in our interest either.

It doesn't matter who they are, we would be better off if they didn't succeed in taking the Nals outpost.

I still think sending in ground forces to attack their forces from behind, once they start attacking the outpost and bombing the ballistas from high above with rocks is good option.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Durlyn Val'Sarghress on Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:18 pm

suntiger745 wrote:Just checked the leader script: Both teams have returned to the ship in the last panel.
Just isn't clearly shown.




Okay, so is getting in touch with our Nal allies to confirm whats going on doable? Or do we really need to decide here and now whether we fly away or attack the fortress regardless of who's in there? Any thoughts/opinions on what our best course of action is at this point Suntiger?

I mean, when our own leader isn't convinced attacking the base is the best course of action, that gives me pause to think.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby goblin6 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:19 pm

Durlyn Val'Sarghress wrote:
suntiger745 wrote:Just checked the leader script: Both teams have returned to the ship in the last panel.
Just isn't clearly shown.




Okay, so is getting in touch with our Nal allies to confirm whats going on doable? Or do we really need to decide here and now whether we fly away or attack the fortress regardless of who's in there? Any thoughts/opinions on what our best course of action is at this point Suntiger?

I mean, when our own leader isn't convinced attacking the base is the best course of action, that gives me pause to think.


We shouldn't assault the enemy by ourselves, we need to inform the Nals and enlist their aid. But first we need to inform them of the unknown armed group hidden near their outpost and offer support. Tohya said it best, it is in our best interest to aid the Nals and make sure the outpost remains in their control, failure to do so will create long term consequences for us. We lose support and current/future business agreements from a reliable ally, trade will be cut off from our city, they'll no longer recognize the skyport island as ours and might even take it for themselves, forcing us to go to war with them if we want to maintain our hold or reclaim it if we can't. They might even seek retribution, the Nals have the cash to hire a merc army to take over our city. We have few allies, turning our backs on the Nals when they have done so much for us would be the biggest mistake we'll ever make.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby laserkid on Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:22 pm

((queue Star Trek the next generation music)) Next time on Drow Trek, are Nal'sarkoth peaceful traders about ready to be attacked or are things not what they seem? Find out next time on Drow Trek.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby minalia on Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:40 pm

[2:26:50 PM] Minalia: well this coming week is kinda simple
[2:26:54 PM] Minalia: we stay or leave
[2:26:59 PM] Minalia: after that
[2:27:07 PM] Minalia: we are commited to one or the other
[2:28:24 PM] Minalia: we stay we then have to choose where we commit all of our military might
[2:28:30 PM] Minalia: we cannot do it both ways
[2:28:42 PM] Minalia: or else its gonna be half assed
[2:29:35 PM] Minalia: and prepare for the possibility that evacuating the outpost being the best plan b we can do if we fail in the attack
[2:31:17 PM] Timotheus: Yeah, thing is, if we play this kosher, we have to stay. We are honor bound by our standards to warn the Nal and make sure they're not being attacked. That's just the way we are. Leaving them in the lurch just isn't our style.
[2:31:30 PM] Minalia: yeah
[2:31:46 PM] Minalia: god knows il be planning the evacuation of all civilian nals to the airship
[2:31:53 PM] Minalia: safer
[2:32:08 PM] Minalia: and milli can reassure them
[2:32:28 PM] Minalia: wins us major brownie points even if we lose the outpost to the possible enemy
[2:32:49 PM] Minalia: and then bring them to our refuge outpost
[2:33:06 PM] Minalia: that would be the best optimal plan with almost no loss of life
[2:33:51 PM] Minalia: from there the nals can then plan a major counter offensive and we get more time to refurbish our ship to get more firepower and more wargolems
[2:35:14 PM] Minalia: anyone got a problem with this plan?
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby goblin6 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:05 pm

I've seen you changed your tune Minalia, your plan is acceptable. If by chance we can't repel the enemy and hold onto the outpost, we can at least save its occupants. Win or fail, the important thing is that we tried to help the Nals. The Nals can reclaim the outpost at a later time should it fall into enemy hands, and I'm pretty sure they'll pay us big to assist them if they need our help.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Ash'arion on Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:32 pm

So you guys agree to Part 1 of my plan. Marvelous.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Jonarus_Drakus on Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:55 am

Now that I'm Eh'rin again, I've put up an advice about making the ship ready for action (regardless of exctly what kind of action that ends up being) - The point of it (rather obviously) being intended as equivilent to setting "red alert" or some-such, just generally making sure everyone not assigned to something specific is ready and waiting at thier assigned spot(s) to minimise any delays on jumping into action...

I would ask that anybody not assigned to a task already, or just generally unsure where to vote, direct thier votes to my advice, as anything that enhances our general level of readiness will be of benifit, regardless of what we end up doing.

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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Tohya on Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:59 am

The only safe way to evacuate the civilians is to take out the Ballistas first. It would of been silly of them to have built siege engines that couldn't hit the Nal outpost.
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Re: 130417 Nel outpost group

Postby Ash'arion on Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:21 am

Well, yes and no. If we're going to do this, it has to be done immediately and entirely. Either we commit to helping the Nals now, or we leave after delivering the message. Those are our options. I'm kind of on the fence about this, since the Queen made a point of saying we don't need to get involved and Kern said it's not going to make a significant difference in the grand scheme of the campaign, but on the other hand it would be a nice vent for some cabin fever.
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