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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Catriana on Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:41 am

Tsuris wrote:I like it too, probably can't vote for that ourselves, since we may need to do a separate option up for actually doing the healing


Huh? Why would we need to do a separate action for something that's a given? If wounded are brought to the healers, we're going to heal them(we're certainly not going to stand there and stare at them). We don't need to write an action to say "We're going to heal whoever is brought to us."
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Leonis on Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:40 am

Catriana wrote:Huh? Why would we need to do a separate action for something that's a given? If wounded are brought to the healers, we're going to heal them(we're certainly not going to stand there and stare at them). We don't need to write an action to say "We're going to heal whoever is brought to us."


Don't do that. That is an assumption Cat. Assumptions make an Ass out of You and Me. Don't assume anything. Cause from what I have seen, for the most part, unless stuff is stated, it simply doesn't get done. Thalar, like most any decent DM/GM does not attempt to mind read and takes things at face value, and if you don't turn in a Down Time Report, you sit there with your thumb up your ass like an idiot. (Or watching TV instead of planning on how you are going to take over the city from the Prince. Yay VtM)
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Tsuris on Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:50 pm

I'm gonna go ahead and say that we do need to say that we heal the ones brought to us, I don't know why we would do anything we didn't put up an action for, and even if we did, do you really want to take the chance that we don't do anything?


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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Catriana on Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:36 pm

Leonis wrote:
Catriana wrote:Huh? Why would we need to do a separate action for something that's a given? If wounded are brought to the healers, we're going to heal them(we're certainly not going to stand there and stare at them). We don't need to write an action to say "We're going to heal whoever is brought to us."


Don't do that. That is an assumption Cat. Assumptions make an Ass out of You and Me. Don't assume anything. Cause from what I have seen, for the most part, unless stuff is stated, it simply doesn't get done. Thalar, like most any decent DM/GM does not attempt to mind read and takes things at face value, and if you don't turn in a Down Time Report, you sit there with your thumb up your ass like an idiot. (Or watching TV instead of planning on how you are going to take over the city from the Prince. Yay VtM)


Please stop that. It makes me feel like you're talking down to me. I've been playing the game for a long time and I worked under Thalar when Jana was a healer back during ranked actions so I'm not completely ignorant to how she operates. We can micro all of our actions, sure, but so far from what I've read, the options we have flow well. If you like, take Taruna's option and change it to:

Slin: Warriors guard supplies, healers tend to any wounded delivered.

It's still under the character limit and we won't need a separate action. I'm not sure why there seems to be this fight for one, it's not necessary.
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Tsuris on Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:43 pm

Taruna wrote:(Copy from Warrior thread)
My suggestion for Team Slin:
Team Slin wrote:Slin: Warriors guard supplies, haul wounded to the healers


Quite simple, but mostly in terms with the plan we had before.



I'm in agreement with Taru.

And I don't really care if it's micro-manging or not, I really don't feel taking the chance that we'll just stand around like a bunch of idiots and would like to do a separate action to heal them....

Catriana wrote:Slin: Warriors guard supplies, healers tend to any wounded delivered.


This sounds good too, but it leaves out the warriors hauling the wounded to the healers, which is the important bit
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Catriana on Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:57 pm

So why were we even debating Taruna's initial suggestion for a vote in the first place? I'm really confused. Because I was all for it being just fine as our vote.

Ruon:Use Siege gear/MS arts from afar.No rush in.Treatment+Resupply of Slin

Bolded and underlined relevant part. It's already been covered. Thalar understands we have a short limit concerning actions, she gets treatment = send to healers. That isn't an assumption, it's logical deduction and I've seen her use it on votes.

There is no chance the healers will stand around if Ruon's group has already stated there will be treatment and Siln's group either has the wounded hauled to them or delivered. In short, regardless of whatever option we put up, Thalar is not going to have us stand around sitting on our thumbs. The actions are not worded so poorly that she would have us not do anything.

But if you really feel that strongly about it, make another vote. I certainly cannot stop you.
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Tsuris on Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:52 pm

Cat, my concern is that if we don't put up an action saying that the healers do something, it won't default to it. Nothing I've seen from playing this game convinces me that we'll do anything without explicitly saying that we do it, I haven't been here as long as you, but that's what I've seen so far.

And even if does happen like that, I'd rather not risk it, if we can get the votes for it to happen, I don't see the harm in doing another vote.
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Catriana on Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:56 pm

How is "Healers tend to wounded delivered" not us treating the wounded? Please explain this to me.

Never mind, as the warrior thread makes this obsolete.

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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Tsuris on Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:58 am

Healers at home should do an option for treating Brimingust
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby goblin6 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:41 am

Can the healers ask Birmingust some questions while they treat him? Like where did the bandits took our supplies to? Are there more of them out in the forest and such.
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby James Rye on Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:29 am

goblin6 wrote:Can the healers ask Birmingust some questions while they treat him? Like where did the bandits took our supplies to? Are there more of them out in the forest and such.


I think we should leave that to the Overseers and their Mimian prisoners for now, i´ve send a pm to Nova asking if she could post an advise to ask the questions regarding the supplies and if there more of them in our forest as well as why exactly they´re here. Since you´ll break them, Nova can ask them safely.

I rather want to use Kay'sae to treat Brimingust as well as to check on our favorite Feral to see if she´s okay, can walk soon, didn´t lost her eye yet. I also wanna use the oppurtunity to ask if there are medical forest plants. Cause if there are (and there should be, i mean its a giant forest with predators and everything) then we could create with the greenhouse our own medicine garden to create medicine for sickness known and yet unknown, gangrene, fever, insects bites, etc.
Cause if we get the mana depivation down sooner or later there will be some sort of sickness around in our clan. Living on the surface means we´ll face sooner or later sicknesses we don´t have below. The most i fear myself is the black death from the Halmes Ariel encountered in that small village. Having some medicines and know what they work for will boost our healing expertise greatly.
Just bandages, antidotes and some healer tools for ope wounds won´t do against all sorts of challenges the healers might have to face in the future. Adding the knowledge and production of medicine will not only help the healers to advance in their possiblities to help the clan but also help the clan itself.
If we can create some medicine which is hard and expensive to create in the underworld, then we have another trading good for the Nal which will sell very well now that there´s a breeding war below. In War food, weapons and medicine rises alot in their cost and if we can send besides food, medicine then not only will we get alot of money that way but also people below will take it as a plus point when they have to consider to leave Chel to come here to us to work as settlers.

So that´s why i like to ask Mirual and Ruiuf about forest plants they know have healing powers/know the Nal specialists wanted them for research. Cause now we only have Nal trader and warriors with us, the specialists have left us long ago so we can´t ask for medical plants the Nals anylonger and have to trust the ferals on that one.
And i do trust them after all they did. I doubt they would tell us of plants which are dangerous to us. Plus even if they are, we´d test them first with the healer/MS equipment ofc. Maybe even use one of the birds or a mana rat or on eof the Mimian prisoners to see if they´re dangerous to our kind or not.

So here´s my advise for the healers at home:
Treat Brimingust+Check on Mirual.Ask her+Ruiuf about medical forest plants. - 75 letters

Thoughts? Cause if none, i´d like to post it tomorrow. :)
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Leonis on Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:00 pm

Speaking, not as a healer, but as a member of the clan... I rather like that option.
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby James Rye on Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:06 pm

Well, Brimingust is already taken care of, so guess the advise will have to wait next week. Or i just have to be faster next time.^^
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Leonis on Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:16 pm

I know right! People not taking the time to discuss options and stuff. Though I am concerned about one option so I will be posting a counter advice. >.<
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Re: Tei'kaliath Healer Thread

Postby Tsuris on Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:53 pm

Omb'reh posted an advice, it's fine as is.
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