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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Sil'Thara on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:18 pm

Well, I'm lightly wounded....to my knowledge. So if you're looking for a warrior for an option, like min's, then I'm only a shout away.

EDIT: If anything, I feel we should stop, rest, and tend to the wounded at the very least. Otherwise, their injuries are going to get worse by being forced to continue moving around, even if it were in the back of the cart...
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby James Rye on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:33 pm

Yeah, i think so too. We´re not getting anywhere in a condition like this.

We might need to ration our food though if Anji doesn´t find us this LA...
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Jonarus_Drakus on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:34 am

I fear we may still be a little to far south for a 'head east' action to achieve the desired result... Better to keep it simple, and say we head for the lake-shore and then follow it home (Thalar can't reasonably suggest that we don't know which direction to go from that starting point).

I also hate to say it... But I think Thalar might be trying to force "the" tough choice on us... Abandon the Golem (if only temporarily), and guarentee everyone makes it home... Or press on as we are, refusing to even consider giving up 'the prize' only to risk loosing so many people that no prize is good enough counter the loss...

Now, sure, that sounded like I was thinking more one way than the other... That is because I was! I've lost one char already, I WILL NOT loose another for some chunk of metal! If even ONE person dies, then to me, the expedition is a failure, no golem is worth the life of a LIVING member of the clan.

So sure, I say we give the plan of moving forward with the Golem one more shot, but if we get shut down again, we really should just give it up and focus on our people...

JD

PS: I also say wait until the LA is up before posting any actions, especially since there may be stuff that happens that is relevant to our decision making process.
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Hetros on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:38 am

Jonarus_Drakus wrote:I fear we may still be a little to far south for a 'head east' action to achieve the desired result... Better to keep it simple, and say we head for the lake-shore and then follow it home (Thalar can't reasonably suggest that we don't know which direction to go from that starting point).

I also hate to say it... But I think Thalar might be trying to force "the" tough choice on us... Abandon the Golem (if only temporarily), and guarentee everyone makes it home... Or press on as we are, refusing to even consider giving up 'the prize' only to risk loosing so many people that no prize is good enough counter the loss...

Now, sure, that sounded like I was thinking more one way than the other... That is because I was! I've lost one char already, I WILL NOT loose another for some chunk of metal! If even ONE person dies, then to me, the expedition is a failure, no golem is worth the life of a LIVING member of the clan.

So sure, I say we give the plan of moving forward with the Golem one more shot, but if we get shut down again, we really should just give it up and focus on our people...

JD

PS: I also say wait until the LA is up before posting any actions, especially since there may be stuff that happens that is relevant to our decision making process.


I disagree. And it's easy enough to counter. You patch the wounded up as you move.
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Jonarus_Drakus on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:49 am

I'm saying *if* patching up isn't enough... If the wounded get worse...

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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Durlyn Val'Sarghress on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:11 am

waiting til the LA update would be the safe thing to do, no telling what'll happen between now and then. What I don't get is why we're lost, is it because we added two expedition options instead of one?
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Hetros on Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:32 am

Durlyn Val'Sarghress wrote:waiting til the LA update would be the safe thing to do, no telling what'll happen between now and then. What I don't get is why we're lost, is it because we added two expedition options instead of one?


Seriously, just sit tight and bandage up the wounded, much better option >_>
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Tohya on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:11 am

Wait to see what happens in the LA.

We did miss a few votes ( 20 people at the start), and maybe all of the explorers are out of commission. There is also far fewer people left to help move the cart, due to injuries and increased guarding.
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Hetros on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:30 am

You honestly CAN'T GO WRONG with "stay put for the moment, tend to injured, be ready to move as necessary" 71 characters >_> gives room for Anji to move you guys as necessary, and because you put it up NOW you decrease the chance of somebody -missing the goddamn update and having them wander off-

edit: even "Tend to injured. Be alert. Move expedition as necessary" would work >_>;
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby minalia on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:35 am

Had a conversation with Thalar.

[5:27:51 AM] Thalar: [5:13 AM] Minalia: <<< yeah that's why the ealier the advices get put the easier it is for folks to log in vote log out and return to do what real life calls them to dothat's probably the reason. normally, only 1 person would miss the vote, 2 at most
[5:28:04 AM] Thalar: and i didn't say the wounded couldn't issue orders, did i?
[5:28:33 AM] Thalar: but then you just think i'm fucking you over anyway
[5:30:23 AM] Minalia: ok thalar answer me 1 single question
[5:30:42 AM] Jane: she's answered quite a few complicated ones for you
[5:30:47 AM] Minalia: do have a established north. south. east and west map system?
[5:31:03 AM] Jane: Thalar, come on, simple logical thinking?
[5:31:12 AM] Minalia: cause we are kinda lost
[5:31:51 AM] Jane: you really expect people not from around here to actually use it on a regular basis and not like it was some form of hyper-rare food item?
[5:33:02 AM] Thalar: heh, you've got a point there Jane
[5:33:10 AM] Thalar: but i'm a reluctant optimist
[5:33:29 AM] Thalar: you have maps, Min, what do you think?
[5:33:35 AM] Minalia: good

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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby James Rye on Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:37 pm

Hmhm, our expedition got one little problem. :/

We left 27 with 8 days food worth. 27 doesn´t count as we ate our share there. We needed 2 1/2 days there and another 2 to get stuff done leavin 3 1/2 days worth in supplies at Day 2. From that day however to now we´re over 4 days going. We´re have day 6 now, we´re out of supplies by now. Next day if Anji won´t meet up with us we´ll face the consequences of having no food for a whole day!

We might need to do a squeezeberry search if Anji doesn´t find us in the LA update/doesn´t have enough food. We have no hunter nor farmer though the explorer might be able to do the same as them and find either some berries to eat or shoot some trideer to cook.

Maybe we should ask Thalar about that to make sure. I mean, If we go from day 28 (28,29,30,1,2,3,4,5,6 = 9 days) as first one where we started to eat the supplies and had 8 days worth, then at day 6 we ate the last 1/2 supply we had left from that fast 2 1/2 day travel to the golem square.

Thoughts to that issue?
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Hetros on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:38 pm

James Rye wrote:Hmhm, our expedition got one little problem. :/

We left 27 with 8 days food worth. 27 doesn´t count as we ate our share there. We needed 2 1/2 days there and another 2 to get stuff done leavin 3 1/2 days worth in supplies at Day 2. From that day however to now we´re over 4 days going. We´re have day 6 now, we´re out of supplies by now. Next day if Anji won´t meet up with us we´ll face the consequences of having no food for a whole day!

We might need to do a squeezeberry search if Anji doesn´t find us in the LA update/doesn´t have enough food. We have no hunter nor farmer though the explorer might be able to do the same as them and find either some berries to eat or shoot some trideer to cook.

Maybe we should ask Thalar about that to make sure. I mean, If we go from day 28 (28,29,30,1,2,3,4,5,6 = 9 days) as first one where we started to eat the supplies and had 8 days worth, then at day 6 we ate the last 1/2 supply we had left from that fast 2 1/2 day travel to the golem square.

Thoughts to that issue?

If push comes to shove, you have hunters and you have tk-74's >_> use the damn things and kill some wildlife, forage.
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Tohya on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:00 am

I wouldn't worry too much about food this close to home.
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby Jonarus_Drakus on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:25 pm

I agree with resting and healing up, (not meta-knowledge, as i was leaning to this preference anyway), if only because of the slim chance of some of the injured (namely myself) might be healed up enough to at least cease to be a burden and be able to move under their own power once more (and see to SELF-defense at a minimum)...

To that goal I have a couple of joint actions to suggest, that them straight up or modify them as desired (hopefully you'll all take them seriously if nothing else)...

A) "[Warriors] Set up a perimeter. Stay alert of any activity" (57) - Not only are we set up for a quick defense, but by keeping the 'stay alert' wording vague, we can receive any warnings from friendly forces more easily. Note: While tagged as 'warriors' any combat support class could reasonable vote for it to (Hunters, explorers, MS - Just keep in mind weather you are 'severely' injured or not)

B) "[Others] Rest up, focus on healing injuries, get everyone back on their feet" (72) - Best posted by a healer, and non-combat or injured personnel should vote here (plus maybe an extra MS?), does exactly as it says, focuses on healing wounded characters and giving everyone a chance to recover, which is what everyone needs right now...

((I'll be re-posting this in the Warrior thread too))
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Re: The Golem expedition and its many goals.

Postby minalia on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:26 pm

I already posted a EA advice. that mainly puts a emphasis on night watch duty,to stay grouped up and prepare for ambushes. We got assaulted by raccoons ferals.

What i want from the warriors and mana specialists is this. Get ready to employ range attacks against ANYTHING that makes any noise whatsoever and mana shields against a possible volley of rocks from raccoons.
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