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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:07 pm

Well spotted Kaz, I was trying to keep the action short and didn't include it, but I will add it in.

The second point is a good question, but one I can confidently answer with yes, in each case I am sending scouts to another Ranked member, not off without leadership (As we learnt, SiC doesn't count as leadership except in the case of the SiC submitting the action in the absence of the ranked member). Thats the key differance.

Also, Tohya, to my knowledge, we have only one set of climbing gear, and I am sure the miners are using it in there action of smoothing the cliffs, also we don't know exactly where the toll collecters are, they may be camped on the bluff, they may be back in the passageway. The best I can do is suggest that we are stealthy as I have already included in the action.

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Some people seem to be panicking and thinking I want the SiC submissions in by today. Thats not the case. If I have them by wednesday, that would be good, but i'm flexible. ^^;
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Tohya on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:09 pm

There are 5 sets of climbing gear.
Climbing equi. : 5

On the bluff or in the passageway, they would have a good view of anyone approaching and can easily slip away into the tunnels. Climbing the bluff that over looks that exit gives a good view and limits your exposure to being seen.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Sword Goddess on Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:46 pm

>;O You'll get mine next month...!

*Squinty eyes* AND YOU'LL LIKE IT TOO!

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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby blackshade10 on Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:55 pm

Sword Goddess wrote:>;O You'll get mine next month...!

*Squinty eyes* AND YOU'LL LIKE IT TOO!

*Coughs* ;/ Oh wait, sorry - my random, paranoid delusions have a tendency to speak for themselves.


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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Dsieda on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:10 pm

Great, so we've discovered an unknown clan we've never seen before is in our cavern. It seems however their "clan" symbols are worn, if that's it, the two facing crescents and the dot in the middle.

I think it would be a good idea to find out just who they are and see where we stand around them.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby thatguyvex on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:18 pm

In all likelihood the next turn is going to involve contacting these people. The question remains on what our stance is going to be when we do so. As for us scouts, now that we've seen the symbol do we want to hit Chel and see if anyone knows that symbol? Also, when is the steel delivery occurring, will that be next turn? Either way looks like business for the scouts is going to be brisk over the next few weeks.

Hey Kitab, totally unrelated to current events but have you had any thoughts on the how/when of the scouts forming relic hunting expeditions? Ever since that rumor cropped up in Chel its something that's continued to cross my mind, and now that the warriors have gained us a known route towards the surface we'd have some information to go on for such a venture without getting (too) lost. Probably not something we can do soon with everything going on in-cavern and in Chel but I was wondering what people's thoughts on the idea might be.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby blackshade10 on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:23 pm

Hmm... Something to note is the quality of their gear. Their armor seems lackluster, and their weapons are certainly low-quality. They might be a new clan.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby thatguyvex on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:27 pm

My guess is that they're another minor Clan like us, though whether they're foreign the same as we are or Chel natives who just happened to find another route around to tax that end of the cavern is up to question. I imagine we'll find out quick enough once contact is initiated.

So far we've seen only ten soldiers, which could be any fraction of the group's forces, but you're right that overall weapon and armor quality seems low, at least in comparison to our own. Guess that's encouraging.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Dsieda on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:28 pm

thatguyvex wrote:In all likelihood the next turn is going to involve contacting these people. The question remains on what our stance is going to be when we do so. As for us scouts, now that we've seen the symbol do we want to hit Chel and see if anyone knows that symbol?


As one thing Cres'sin noted, they don't look to be "fully equipped" as some of the more larger clans that we've seen in the past.

With that said, and the possibility of them being a new clan, the general population of Chel might not know who they are.

Depending on the LA, if we actually talk to them and find out what's going on we may find out who they are that way. But it's still a good idea to find out more of this mysterious clan.

If they are relatively new...DOMINATE! *giggle*
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:34 pm

A seemingly poorly equipped new clan to investigate, hmmm I'm going to wait until the LA comes up before I say anything specific. There appears to be some confusion about whether we have slowed down to 1 day or not, the comic says no, but it claims to only be Day 8, not Day 8-10. So this might mean something happened in the LA... Like a visit from unknown clan.

So for the next action, Tal'ray will get hired.
The Steel Delivery will probably need to go ahead next turn or at latest the turn after, if this was a 3 day turn it will be late, if this was a 1 day turn, then we should be ok. 4 scouts will accompany it.
If Writer wants to continue exploring the ruins, then 4 scouts will aid him.
If Xenon goes to talk to these new clan people, then she will also need a scout escort in case things turn sour. Debating between giving her 2 or 4 scouts - depending on warrior support -
2 scouts to An'jhali.

Leaving me with 6 or 8 scouts.

Oh wait, we also need to man the watchtower, so thats another few down.

Given the choice between all that... I guess I would just take the last remaining scouts and support the Ruin investigation.

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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Dsieda on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:37 pm

Kitab Al'Ibar wrote:A seemingly poorly equipped new clan to investigate, hmmm I'm going to wait until the LA comes up before I say anything specific. There appears to be some confusion about whether we have slowed down to 1 day or not, the comic says no, but it claims to only be Day 8, not Day 8-10. So this might mean something happened in the LA... Like a visit from unknown clan.

So for the next action, Tal'ray will get hired.
The Steel Delivery will probably need to go ahead next turn or at latest the turn after, if this was a 3 day turn it will be late, if this was a 1 day turn, then we should be ok. 4 scouts will accompany it.
If Writer wants to continue exploring the ruins, then 4 scouts will aid him.
If Xenon goes to talk to these new clan people, then she will also need a scout escort in case things turn sour. Debating between giving her 2 or 4 scouts - depending on warrior support -
2 scouts to An'jhali.

Leaving me with 6 or 8 scouts.

Oh wait, we also need to man the watchtower, so thats another few down.

Given the choice between all that... I guess I would just take the last remaining scouts and support the Ruin investigation.

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busy scouts are busy. XD

I'm hoping the LA will give us some more insight on the mysterious ones.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:49 pm

Scouts are busy indeed.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this groups capabilities though, there weapons may not be impressive, but they do have the resources to throw up a road block quickly. It wasn't long ago that the merchants and our warriors returned through that way.

So given that they have set it up, and given that we seem to hold this warrior reputation, I'm skeptical that an unprepared group would appear at our doorstep.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Dsieda on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:56 pm

Kitab Al'Ibar wrote:Scouts are busy indeed.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this groups capabilities though, there weapons may not be impressive, but they do have the resources to throw up a road block quickly. It wasn't long ago that the merchants and our warriors returned through that way.

So given that they have set it up, and given that we seem to hold this warrior reputation, I'm skeptical that an unprepared group would appear at our doorstep.



That's true. So their standing is either a. equal to ours or b. perhaps slightly above.

And that's if it's just them alone.

A 'new' (if we want to consider that possibility) or rather Small clan, knowing our rep, might be a bit weary on doing something like this, and sending out warriors who seem to have...a sword that's made by a toddler and a canoe oar. XD

I have other guesses that maybe someone could have sent them there to do this for a job. It's a possibility maybe. And if they are a small, new clan, they would probably take the job to make some money.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:19 am

Ok, so plans are being made. So far, no update on the SiC position, you have all made very good suggestions, with many points being raised by more than one of you. I'm quite busy this weekend but will try to make a decision, if not it will certainly come into the next action.

For this weeks action, I will be leading the steel delivery action with a group of scouts, a set of warriors and the spider golem assigned to me. 6 Scouts (Including myself and Tal'ray being hired).

Apart from that, as mentioned above, a number of scouts will be assigned to the warriors/Xenon to deal with the toll collecters. 6 Scouts.

The watchtower will need to be manned as our forces will be spread thin. 4 scouts. For the same reason 2 will accompany An'jhali.

The ruin excavation is not needed this turn, so the above numbers have been adjusted accordingly.
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Re: KSI - Kitab's Scout Investigators

Postby Kir'ima on Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:00 am

Kitab Al'Ibar wrote:For this weeks action, I will be leading the steel delivery action with a group of scouts, a set of warriors and the spider golem assigned to me. 6 Scouts (Including myself and Tal'ray being hired).

Apart from that, as mentioned above, a number of scouts will be assigned to the warriors/Xenon to deal with the toll collecters. 6 Scouts.

The watchtower will need to be manned as our forces will be spread thin. 4 scouts. For the same reason 2 will accompany An'jhali.

Point of caution - the PtP main page may show 16 scout assistants (17 after hiring Tal'ray this next turn), but that does not necessarily mean we have 18 total scouts, as evidenced by Kern's words and the Crafter panel. If you specify 2 scouts for An'jhali's guard and 4 scouts for the lookout (total 6 scouts), we may end up with less than 6 scouts each in the two main 'battle' groups. One of the basic principles of warfare is concentration of force, so if I had any recommendation it would be to assign 2 scouts to An'jhali and just 2 scouts to the lookout (remain hidden, no engagement - just watch, report, and signal flare (and run! :p) if necessary), with the rest of the scouts (and all of the crossbows) split evenly between the two battle groups just to make sure we have sufficient numbers in the two areas where conflict is most likely.

Personally, I don't like that we are being forced to split our forces between potential conflicts like this, but I also don't see any way around it given the current timeline. However, if we spread ourselves too thin, Kern will definitely take note of that and use it against us. :0
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