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Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homeland

Postby goblin6 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:12 pm

As of this post, we the Teikaliaths, are marching to war along with the Dvergars in order to help them reclaim their homeland and keep our end of the bargain after they supplied us with raw materials and their crafters/smiths. The purpose of this thread is to plan and discuss any battle strategies for the upcoming war. Also a reminder, anyone in the war party CANNOT post EA advices, but can still vote for them.

Here are the names of those in the war party:

Warriors:39
Aara
Aleria Vilrath
Ata'yon
Calin Con'Dulean
Den'iam
Durlyn Karandras Teikaliath
Eh'rin
Fahir D'salla
Gojinki
Gul'aun
Honu
Jak'Sura
Kazdrin
Laerei
Leona
Loniar
Maren
Oplynache
Oru'kiudo
Pelinore
Quanhir'nylwae
Ral
Ren'al
Sana'shya
Sen'gil
Shana Jinx
Sil'Thara
Stilgar
Szindyl
T'yrel
Taruna
Tiani'Jadel
Tour
Valyn
Van'deer
Voth
Wil'liraen
Xalgoz
Xenon

Healers:4
Tsuris'zinn
Nul'iir
Ninorok
Niar'suru

Mana Specialist:4
Dycle
Tsabal
Lua'nar
A'tanar
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby novamouy17 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:16 pm

know i'm not a part of the campain but may I recomend that in the posability of victory, any of the surviving enemy be taken for slaves?
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby goblin6 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:27 pm

novamouy17 wrote:know i'm not a part of the campain but may I recomend that in the posability of victory, any of the surviving enemy be taken for slaves?


Sorry, but this isn't the time or the correct thread to discuss terms and victory spoils. And honestly, if there's any survivors among the enemy, we should give them to the dvergars for them to decide their fates. Remember, the enemies are the ones who kicked out the dvergars from their home, and by right, should be the ones who deliver the punishment.
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby laserkid on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:23 am

Mana specs use earth foci to create stone cover.

Warriors advance w/ mana-shields up using stone cover while suppressing enemies with TK-47s and manabolts.

Healers drag any wounded under cover and treat.

If enemies hold up in a building we collapse a side of it with the earth foci and warriors rush into melee.

Non-combatants will be spared and transported back to Amavarde for repatriation.

Wounded and surrendering combatants will be bound and transported to Amavarde for sentencing by the Illharis.

These occupiers seem to be refugees with a militant arm....Like the Tei'kaliath in Chel.
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby Pariel on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:33 am

Before that, I think we should agree on a structure of command. Design squad leaders. Warriors do have one, but I know we don't have. Comment things out with them, and then post in the thread. It would be much smoother than having everyone post in here what we should do about the war. And I strongly disagree with your post, Dycle. You're basing your strategy on an unconfirmed supposition, moreover you're discussing about non combatants and expatriation like if we were the only ones involved in this conflict. The Itham Guir should have their word in what to do with them. Bear in mind that asking the mana specialists to create a cover is a really time-consuming task, that would exhaust them and maybe expose them to enemy fire aswell.

So please, let's not jump the gun into the actual battlefield tactics just yet. I do think the problem of the structure needs to be throughoutly adressed first.
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby laserkid on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:42 am

Making cover takes time...roughly a few seconds if DT main archive is right...

5 Squads: 1 Command (reserve), 4 fighting

Anjali, Dvaugar Leaders
    Badai (Squad Leader)
      Nal'Sarkoth Guard
      ? Dvuagar vanguard

    Squad leader 1(Warrior)
      9-10 Warriors
      1 Healer
      1 Mana spec
      ? Dvuagar attachment

    Squad leader 2(Warrior)
      9-10 Warriors
      1 Healer
      1 Mana spec
      ? Dvuagar attachment

    Squad leader 3(Warrior)
      9-10 Warriors
      1 Healer
      1 Mana spec
      ? Dvuagar attachment

    Squad leader 4(Warrior)
      9-10 Warriors
      1 Healer
      1 Mana spec
      ? Dvuagar attachment
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby Hetros on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:01 am

If I might suggest. Equip one squadron with the undergasmasks and swords. They're our breaker unit, the vanguard that charges under a blast of gas charges in front of them.

Give two warrior squads their TK-74's for fire support =3

Another possibility is to give the mana specs entirely to the fire support squads and then the dvegar all to the strike forces >_> or majority of their forces and then their cannons to our fire support teams?
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby Pariel on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:03 am

A few seconds might be too much (and I highly doubt we can do that anyway. The only characters I can recall with such a proficience level are Orthorbbae masters, which are leagues beyond us). Actively shaping a cover also hampers the advance of our troops and cuts down a mana specialist stamina. Mana IS a double edged weapon after all. Misuse it and you'll end up weakened without a posibility to fight back. And I also consider that slapping a squad chart like that one might... not settle well with the warriors, who already had a defined command structure. Regardless, I do think it is not beneficial to jump in the gun and post in this thread the first thing that comes to one's mind. We should comment it in our respective threads, assign a representant (or several) and then post in here. That's what I mean by command structure.

That is all. I will stop making more comments about this topic in the thread, but I feel this is an issue that must be adressed.

Edit: I agree with Hetros there. Fire support might work better than forcefully using mana to dig trenches and erect walls.
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby Loniar on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:05 am

Hetros wrote:Give two warrior squads their TK-74's for fire support =3


The update said that every warrior will have their own personal TK-74. We can assign squads to primarily use them though. :w
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby Hetros on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:06 am

Pariel wrote:Edit: I agree with Hetros there. Fire support might work better than forcefully using mana to dig trenches and erect walls.


We're attacking, trenches and walls aren't our deal. We'll be using earth foci for SIEGE BREAKING. Destroying walls and battlements and weakening stone positions for cannon fire >_> it would be the only reason to send mana specs with the front line soldiers.
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby laserkid on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:20 am

Well, with not much but marshaling on our side done I suppose we need to march to the Ithrin village and pick up their warriors.

Proposed LA advice:

"Warband: March to Ithrin village, come up with attack plan with Ithrin."
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby Wy'shira on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:53 am

Pariel wrote:(...)

Regardless, I do think it is not beneficial to jump in the gun and post in this thread the first thing that comes to one's mind. We should comment it in our respective threads, assign a representant (or several) and then post in here. That's what I mean by command structure.

(...)


I agree with this. Representatives aren't even truly necessary. The problem with everyone randomly giving ideas here is that it could become very confusing, very fast. It would contain everyone's best and worst ideas.

If most healers decide to discuss what they want to do in the healing thread, and then come here to post their final decision, and the mana specs and the warriors do the same, then this thread will contain all the finalized ideas for everyone to read over and approve. Otherwise my fear is that people will be spit-balling ideas in four different threads, so you'll have to read four threads just to realize what's going on. This four-different-thread problem came up to a lesser extent in the hunter trip and in other expeditions that I've seen. It has the potential to be pretty disruptive. :)

Of course, right now that's not necessary. You guys aren't even there yet. But when the war properly begins, it's something to think about.
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby James Rye on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:08 am

Thing is we got squads already, 3 so far with 6 active members each. Another point is that of the 39 warriors only 24 are active, rest just got "taken along".
Meaning those will have somehow have to find their way into battle as well and its not clear yet if Thalar will divid them equal between the actions we active ones vote for or if they´ll need own actions where they get mentioned which we pull through with our vote power.

The TK47 if ir ecall correctly was designed, unlike the Hunter crossbow, to be fired with one hand. Which is why i´m still unsure whenever that means all warriors can fire/fight with both TK47 and sword or if they can only use one of those for the whole battle/parts of battle.

Healer/MS are too few with 4 each to do own actions so either they stay together as one support squad or they´ll get into the three/four active squad ones.

Which brings me to the other question: Do the people who aren´t in a squad yet wants to join Oply in the 4th squad or do you want to join the 3 existing ones?
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby minalia on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:39 pm

It's a freaking tommy gun, The TK74 was designed on the Chicago typewriter. You point it at some idiot you want dead, you press the trigger and off the bastard becomes a instant pin cushion that gushes out blood. This weapon is the ultimate goblin killer since anyone who has no mana shield will be gunned down fast. This means the enemy dvergar gnomes and the Xulies will be easy prey to the machine gun firepower and be wiped out fast if taking by surprise. As for trained drow enemies the Tk74 will easily pinned those fools who will desperately try and keep a mana shield up but will only make themselves easy targets to be attacked at their flanks by our allies artillery who will pulverize their mana shields if they unite their cannons at those mana shields.

The history of the tommy gun seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxBG3vUf ... 1D10A672ED was the reason why i choose this to be the basis on the warrior's rifle.
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Re: Joint Strategy Meeting for Reclamation of Dvergar Homela

Postby Leonis on Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:26 am

Now Mina, I've not seen the TK74, so does it also have a nice drum barrel of bullet... er bolts?
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