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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby Aeryll on Fri May 14, 2010 10:02 pm

Read the last update.

The Sharen specialist is going to be send to start things up, nothing says he'she is staying.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby benuminister on Fri May 14, 2010 10:06 pm

This is why I stated it as, "As I understood," not "as Kern said." However he did say to assist not to take full control in the EA on this page

http://www.drowtales.com/~pathtopower/a ... p?sid=6726
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby blackshade10 on Fri May 14, 2010 10:08 pm

Aeryll wrote:Read the last update.

The Sharen specialist is going to be send to start things up, nothing says he'she is staying.


"Promise to provide a specialist to assist in the managing of the citizens who will move into Ther'avare's Cavern"

Sorry, but nowhere in that sentence does it say a thing about "starting things up". It says "Assist in the managing" which does nothing to imply that the specialist is expected to come help set up and then hand everything over to us.


And the control that is given to us is how we guard the area and how we set the taxes.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby Aeryll on Fri May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

Again read the update. First Chibi speech bubble.

"I will send someone to help you to start it up"

Also.

In the entire chibi speech there is NO mention that ANY Sharen will lift ANY finger AFTER the specialist is gone.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby benuminister on Fri May 14, 2010 10:13 pm

Cres, by that definition we become nothing more then a better controlled vassal of the Sharen
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby blackshade10 on Fri May 14, 2010 10:14 pm

benuminister wrote:Cres, by that definition we become nothing more then a better controlled vassal of the Sharen


By definition, we are part of Chel.

So yeah, we're going to have to deal with that.

And which update? A specific date please?
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby Aeryll on Fri May 14, 2010 10:15 pm

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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby Xalgoz on Fri May 14, 2010 10:15 pm

Everyone in the city is technically a Sharen vassal, as they are the ruling clan. Some just have the means to militarily oppose them and the political inclination to do so, we have neither.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby blackshade10 on Fri May 14, 2010 10:18 pm

Aeryll wrote:The one of today


Read it, and the context really doesn't imply that the specialist will leave. It later goes on to say that the other parts, like selection of area, taxation, guarding, etc, are up to us.

Really, it's an LA thing. We do not need a new rank for this.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby benuminister on Fri May 14, 2010 10:20 pm

Which means we are arguing over interpretation of a single line of text when we really should be discussion whether or not we should create another rank. Remember it is not fully kern's word's until it is posted in a red box. I suggest If you would truly like to clear this up though Cres, you should post it as a question to Anuragi.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby Aeryll on Fri May 14, 2010 10:22 pm

It doesn't imply that the specialist will stay.

It does imply the specialist will go after his job is done, that is, starting the settlement of commoners up and leaving it into our hands. JOb done, specialist gone. There is nothing saying he/she will stay.

I agree we don't need another rank for it, because our current ranks are sufficient. I also disagree that we need a Sharen specialist to help us with something we have to do ourselves.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby blackshade10 on Fri May 14, 2010 10:24 pm

Aeryll wrote:It doesn't imply that the specialist will stay.

It does imply the specialist will go after his job is done, that is, starting the settlement of commoners up and leaving it into our hands. JOb done, specialist gone. There is nothing saying he/she will stay.

I agree we don't need another rank for it, because our current ranks are sufficient. I also disagree that we need a Sharen specialist to help us with something we have to do ourselves.


Well, they are Sharen citizens and this is THEIR city. If a Sharen demands something, we lower our head and do it. They are the rulers of this city and we have nothing to oppose that.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby benuminister on Fri May 14, 2010 10:26 pm

In character we know they are powerful but this is the queen's city not her clan's. Until we receive a request form her I don't think that point stands.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby blackshade10 on Fri May 14, 2010 10:27 pm

The Queen is the Illharess of the Sharen officially.
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Re: Ranked Proposal: Tax Collector/Police Commissoner

Postby Aeryll on Fri May 14, 2010 10:29 pm

The Sharen are sending commoners out of their city to us to take care of them.

They can send someone to check up on us and ask for a tribute every now and then and we can 'officially' ask them for help, but we also are an official clan and the Sharen can't ask stupid things or the other clans will take notice. The Sharen are strong but they can't deal with all the clans.

Small addition.
It's irrelevant to the commoners arriving who is lording over them. In this case, we will.
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