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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby Taruna on Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:27 pm

James Rye wrote:When the scouts shouldn´t look after her anymore, then you can either make Tal´ray Rosani´s personal guradian who´s around her every day or use the overseers as a back-up when Rosani and Tal´ray works for other ranked like harvesters, crafters, healers and builders and such. :3


Guarding her is my job, dude..
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby James Rye on Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:37 pm

Taruna wrote:
James Rye wrote:When the scouts shouldn´t look after her anymore, then you can either make Tal´ray Rosani´s personal guradian who´s around her every day or use the overseers as a back-up when Rosani and Tal´ray works for other ranked like harvesters, crafters, healers and builders and such. :3


Guarding her is my job, dude..


Yeah, i know. What i mean is that Kit'ab can let Tal´ray be with Rosani the whole day aka being more of a babysitter then a scout while you show up when someone comes up with the great idea to stab Rosani with a knife. XD
Besides you have your SC stuff to do and to train newbies and watch over the new players, that they follow the rules and all that.^^
So a little help from the overseers and the other rankeds as job helpers wouldn´t hurt. :)

So, maid uniform for Rosani? We could add cat ears too, you know? *wee*
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:47 pm

I've not had a chance to speak with Tal'ray yet, but I will post up some of my plans, these are subject to change.

First: Before this event happened, I had been waiting for Rosani to appear calmly in comic, from the looks of this event, she has, her fighting spirit is much reduced. Now that she is calmer, I believe we can begin interacting with her in meaningful ways, involving her in actions within the clan simple things at first and growing over time. The events of the LA force me to move faster that I intended, but it's still a promising development.

I had also arranged with Thalar to have her checked up by the Healers. I still intend for that to go ahead soon, the healers are among the most outwardly friendly members of our clan and have appeared many times in the comic to speak with NPCs in a generally rewarding manner. They may be most able to hold a casual conversation with her while she is being checked up.

If you have read the MoTM, you will see that I'm planning a team building exercise with the scouts. At the time there will be 18 scouts. These will be split into 3 groups of 6 and loosly tied together.
1 person is each group will be an observer.
1 will be blindfolded
1 will have an arm tied behind their back
2 will be bound together at the leg so that they must walk together
The last person is a bit more tricky, i'm toying with ideas for that, maybe weigh them down with a lot of random items. Suggestions welcome.
The various ailments will be switched around so everybody gets practice with each.
The intend is to force her to work alongside the group she is in, her group will contain Tal'ray, myself and some of the scouts that were sympathetic to her. Another group will be lead by Ombreh and include many of the scouts who voted against her to encourage a competitive atmosphere. Hopefully this should encourage Rosani to interact with and work alongside the scout group she is with.

Hopefully, the turn after, the healers will be available so Rosani can go and speak to them. If the results of these actions are promising then we will consider sending her to work alongside other ranks, probably with Tal'ray or Taruna as an escort.

First those that are working inside Ther'avare. Likely the crafters if Kahab is willing. Then perhaps the Harvesters. I am reluctant to send her to the miners for a while, our last escapee - Jokerface - was from the mine, and they have a collection of items which can double as weapons. I personally would not like to see Rosani with a golem drill. ^^;

A lot of this will depend on the reactions given in comic, if they are favourable, then everything is gravy. If not, I will continue to post up new suggestions.
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby Jonarus_Drakus on Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:01 pm

Sounds good Kitab. Having her work as part of a team with members of the scouts will have the obvious effect of having her see herself as something other than a prisoner. Furthermore (though it may take longer for this effect to be noticable) this will also start to make her see us (the scouts specificaly), as being on the 'same side'.

One thing that would re-inforce this second effect would be to set up a fake attempt to kill her (making it look as though it was another clan/group trying to do so). When she is "saved" by our people, that will (hopefuly - if she doesn't see through it), cause her to see us as 'saviors'. She will never forget what we did to her clan, but she will hopefuly come to realise that we don't hold that against her.

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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby 3Power on Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:03 pm

In my experience (I've been a 'gamer' since before games actually came in more than 8 colours) the people most likely to acuse people of being 'noobs' are themselves 'noobs'. Which is acurate considering from all I've seen you've only been actively involved in PtP a couple of months (sligtly after myself). Essentialy, *I* don't think *I* am 'involved' enough with PtP to speak like you do, what makes you think *you* do hmm?
There's noobs to Ptp, and there's noobs to the internet in general. They are not one and the same. Noobish is the the most polite term I could think up at the time to describe blackshade's behavior, but upon thinking it over I think asinine would have worked as well.
It is a pitty that you have this attitude, as i actually think your sugestion of putting Rosani with the slaves for a while then giving her an ultimatum was a good one, but you attitude has spoiled it.
It's a pity that you become unable to listen to good ideas just because they are stated bluntly. However, Kitab has alreadly stated several times over in the shoutbox that he will not permit the overseers to watch over her under any circumstances, so frankly it doesn't matter how I say things if he's too deaf to hear them anyway. He's got his own little toy and he doesn't want to let anyone else play with it for fear it will break if not in his hands. Fine, I'll step back and laugh loudly at the sidelines when he accidentally tears it himself by pulling it in every which way without any rhyme or reason.

One final bit of advice.

If you are going to plan any events with Rosani than please, for the love of god, please make sure you have a way to assess her progress. Observing her reactions can work in a pinch, but anything that gives her a choice is much better.

But feel free to ignore me because I'm MEAN! :[
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby James Rye on Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:08 pm

3Power wrote:But feel free to ignore me because I'm MEAN! :[


Nana, you´re not mean (your chara´s way too adorable to be like that XD) but calling blackshade noobish was uncalled for. We´re all working for the same goal (more or less at least :P), so we should stay polite with each other. *bigsmile*

Also Kitab does consider ideas, the healer thingie was a idea of mine if i recall it right and he took it over cuase he believes it will show good results. But when he believes it won´t be good for Rosanis behaviour to us like a cute maid uniform with cat ears (WHY? Sharess, why? She would look so cute in it?God, why??? :U :0 :A ), then he won´t tkae it into his Rosani plan.
Hehe, he´s already like Shirr daddy. *imagine Bioshock Big daddy to understand the joke* XD
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby PenDragon on Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:12 am

This "custody battle" over Rosani has turned into quite a farce... ^^;

Whatever is planned, I think that Rosani's owners should do it now and stop wasting time. The girl's attitude hasn't changed since being captured, and it won't change by constantly fussing over her.

James Rye wrote:So, maid uniform for Rosani? We could add cat ears too, you know? *wee*

A maid uniform, especially with cat ears, would probably help. XD She may have less of an uppity attitude if we take away some of her individuality.
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby Hellsion on Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:24 am

3Power wrote:ignore me


K

Sorry Trey'la but sometimes you come off as overbearing, which to some people equals: mean.

which oddly enough is the opposite of your character description.... *hmmm*

...omg I just had an idea for an awesome picture featuring you :3

That aside Ahnji has finnally firmly stated that Rosani is the sole responsibility of ..............names escape me.... until we give her a job or something.

and by "we" I mean these lovely people who are taking care of her.

and so I put to everybody who is not one of these caretakers to stop f-ing around with Rosani in the LA box.

because its kinda like:

ImageThe goggles! they do NOTHING!


and if you indeed do look back the Rosani advices. they do NOTHING! but give everyone false hopes and wasted time and a headache the size of my butt to Ahnji.

and on this subject, and this subject alone will I ever say you wasted your vote on the subject. (says me who made an advice, well yes indeed you see being a slave is a surefire way to get Rosani into a maid outfit :3)

and I know everyone is free to state their own opinions, however you also gotta know when to stop beating a dead horse.

and untill Rosani herself dose something, the horse will stay dead.

and so I leave you all with this:
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby PenDragon on Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:14 am

Proof that Rosani in a maid outfit is a solid gold concept. XD It's hard for her to be tough and rebellious when she's dressed in something that cute. }:3

Bravo, Hellsion! 8P
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby waffleferret on Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:40 am

PenDragon wrote:This "custody battle" over Rosani has turned into quite a farce... ^^;

Whatever is planned, I think that Rosani's owners should do it now and stop wasting time. The girl's attitude hasn't changed since being captured, and it won't change by constantly fussing over her.

James Rye wrote:So, maid uniform for Rosani? We could add cat ears too, you know? *wee*

A maid uniform, especially with cat ears, would probably help. XD She may have less of an uppity attitude if we take away some of her individuality.

or it will piss her off and turn her into a complete and total phyco killer ^^; but then mister-cut-him-self slave will have a cute girl friend to hurt him :w

she dose look cute in the outfit :] but someone as proud as her will only boil over at the humilliation.
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby James Rye on Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:26 am

If the scout´s training is a sccuess or at least not a big failure i think we can take some new clothes for her into account: MAID UNIFORM!!!! *wee*
No, seriously any kind of clothes is better then this pieces she wears right now. ^^;
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby Lt Anders on Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:28 am

In regards to Handling etc of Rosani:

Lets make her work with the Miners. Heavy Labor is good for the soul.
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby Jonarus_Drakus on Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:31 am

Lt Anders wrote:In regards to Handling etc of Rosani:

Lets make her work with the Miners. Heavy Labor is good for the soul.


Not biased at all are we? Hmm?

I support the action as posted, as i stated in the KSI thread.

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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby thatguyvex on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:24 am

I actually think Lt Anders has something with Rosani working with the miners.

I mean, the Overseers have slaves working with the miners every action, so while Rosani is there we know that there will also be at least something resembling security present to keep an eye on her that isn't the scouts; which seems to be 3Power's big thing right now, that the scouts shouldn't be involved anymore in keeping an eye on Rosani.

Technically getting her to work with any of the other ranked groups seems like the ideal thing for getting her out of sight but functioning in a positive way. Whoever she's working with just has to either be people that can deal with her if she gets uppity, or work with the Overseers so they can deal with her if she get's uppity.
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Re: Handling and Educating Rosani

Postby Tohya on Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:12 am

Can I play with her?

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