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PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby thealbinobutterfly on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:54 am

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PROJECT FINDING NEMO:

Purpose:

To Co-Ordinate actions between the scouts and the Ambassador to finish exploring the partial map of chel'el'sussoloth, in hopes to find more allies.

When:

After the Dvara"Ka war, we will be making this our priority.

Why:

Xenon: We have run out of options to explore in chel. I refuse to work throughout he larger clans when it has been hinted that there are more smaller clans we develop opportunities with, without fear of larger rebuttal.

Kitab: It is the duty of the scouts to explore new areas and find new opportunities for the clan, recently my ability to accomplish this goal has been stretched, Now it is time we returned to our true purpose.
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby thealbinobutterfly on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:54 am

The Ambassador role was never clearly defined, it is my intent to define it.

I see the ambassador able to be the first contact to any clan. I see the Ambassador as the one to develop business opportunities and expand ourself diplomatically throughout chel'el'ussoloth, be it through trade or negotiation.

I have read through the archives and i can see that our current path has been chaotic. We need to establish ourselves not by directly confronting the major clans, but by working with allies through the smaller. Our strength is not in our numbers, but it is in our versatility. This enables us to multi class and relate to various types of clans in chel who may have something we need.

Project Finding Nemo is a collaborative effort with Kitab and the scouts to find allies that we can work with on a positive relationship. The svartelos will always be willing to work with us, for a price, but we need more than that. We need someone to back us up, until we can stand on our own. We need to link ourselves through chel, find other smaller clans who we can benefit WITH, and make ourselves a stronger clan for it.

Is it weakness that the chain has more than one link, or is it strength?
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:54 am

It is my intent to gradually redefine the scout role.

Our greatest strength is our versatility, but it is also our greatest weakness. The scouts currently cover every role from support combatant, escort, Kir'isu hunter, job hunter, information gatherer, part time merchant, sentry and even the very rare task of exploring.

Not even counting turns where I may wish to train and develop the unique skills the scouts have.

To me, this is backwards. The scouts were originally created as an exploratory force, it was our task to explore new areas and maintain a lookout over the Chelian entrance to our cavern. Since then we have picked up and covered roles, some because they were miscellaneous, some because they were necessary at the time. However, now I find myself unable to accomplish the primary purpose of the scouts – Exploration – because a lot of the above tasks can only be accomplished as primary actions.

Project Finding Nemo is an opportunity for us to act on the role we were created to do, the scouts should be explorers first and that is what I want to happen.

This is not to say that after the Dvara’ka conflict I will immediately stop doing anything else, nor is it saying that if asked in future I would not do these things, just that they should not form the majority of my actions. I want to gradually push back this reliance on the scouts.

The warriors are currently being trained in mana shields, so the scouts no longer become a necessity on escort tasks, and I would eventually wish to see the warriors training in both ranged and melee combat, we had a functional archer squad which was also prepared to engage in melee combat, I do not see why we cannot return to that structure. To me it makes far more sense. Again, this does not mean that I wouldn’t aid the warriors in combat, but it would be in a far more tactical role than it is now.

In regards to job hunting and shopping, other ranks have made shopping trips and would likely get more specific information from Kern if they searched for jobs themselves. I am happy to do them on occasion if people are willing to take advantage of the jobs offered, or else it is just a wasted turn.

This brings me to information gathering: past experience has shown that just asking questions doesn’t give good answers. More information has been forthcoming from the Slave master interrogations and from Xenon’s diplomatic efforts. The only option I have to fall back on is that knowledge isn’t free, if we want to gain more specifics from Kern, it will come at a price. People will have to be willing to let me make those attempts when it comes to it.

Now, Project Finding Nemo. If you would kindly take a look at the partial map of ‘western’ (Eastern) Chel, you will see that in there is a lot of grey fog there, that fog hides our future allies, our future enemies and our Path to Power, meeting and dealing with these clans are among the first steps we need to take, so I think it’s about time we got cracking.
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Sword Goddess on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:02 am

"We are all slaves to fate, kings, and desperate men," - but no one ever said we couldn't thread together a tapestry of our own making, and define our roles accordingly. So I say applauds to you both for taking this initiative upon yourselves, this is nothing short of perfect, and I can only hope it gathers the support it deserves.

For now? I offer a thumbs up, a few `Love The Sword` T-Shirts, and my never ending love, as always.
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Inquisitor on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:09 am

Agreed in full, the Scouts are not Warriors; while we can play a supporting role, I think most of us who chose the Scout profession did it expressly for the adventuring aspect. It's fun to be an explorer, and the ladies love it.

We have Crossbows and armor because there is a certain danger associated with investigating what is as yet unknown to us.

Rainbow Lady and Bossman, whatever has the world come to, to see such times as these? Ah hell, it could be worse. A lot worse, actually I see nothing wrong with it!
Or do I?
I guess you'll never know...

Except for now. The symbiotic nature of the Ambassadors and Scouts in this is wonderful, while keeping both completely seperate entities, you'll ensure that each party has it's own clearly defined, but connected goals in support of one another. The more the Scouts uncover new peoples, the more the Ambassadors can negotiate and settle with them.

I like it, and I approve.

- And not only because Kitab is the Master Scout, nor because Xenon's charismatic colors have stupified me into submission.

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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Frost Indri on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:21 am

Sounds good to me except if you're going to drop the roll of Kirusu hunter, we need to know who's filling it. :p
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Sword Goddess on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:33 am

Depending on the state of the warriors after this conflict is resolved, perhaps they'll have more than enough members to send a squad or so hunting for a while. ^^
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:54 am

Frost Indri wrote:Sounds good to me except if you're going to drop the roll of Kirusu hunter, we need to know who's filling it. :p


I think Kir'isu hunting is likely to stay under our bracket for the forseeable future, we have a direct stake in the resources it produces, but aid from the warriors is always appreciated.

Though if you could work on making us chitin gloves and boots at some point it would be appreciated ;)
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Tohya on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:14 am

Sounds like a good plan, and long over due.

I wish you the best of luck with it. :3
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Finish on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:03 pm

Well we may find one or two interesting locations but probably not many new Clans. I still believe Kern decide when the Clans show up since almost every time the scouts were looking/asking
for other Clans they didn't find anything.

We met the Svart as they wanted something from us.
We met the VV after we agreed to fight for the Svart.
We met the Siksa during the battle.
We met the Dvaraka after we heared that somebody set up a toll post in our cavern.

The only two Clans we found were the Guild of Flowers and the Kal - and those were the only Minor Clans who appeared before P2P.

So my assumption is that Kern doesn't want to create 20-30 Minor Clans who'll never appear again after we discovered them and decided that they aren't worth or time.
Remember how long it took until we decided to go to the Kal. ;) So from his point of view I think it's better to only introduce new Clans from time to time if he thinks we
would truely interact with them and give them a better background.
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Wan'drille on Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:13 pm

You speak true. But I think we should still perform the finding nemo strategy.

What we need is to go for small clan with a goal. This have already been said.
As a pnp GM, I can understand why Kern wouldn't want to create dozens of small clan for the sake of us interacting with one or two.
But if we go with a defined goal, he could create the clans that we specifically search.

As for the goal, many propositions have been made and I'd like to point that the current Sharen deal is a demonstration of our ability to make commercial arrangement with other clan.

Everything the Sharen are asking could be asked by another clan in exhanges of ada or ressources (or info, or military support).

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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby blackshade10 on Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:17 pm

The world is a place that has it's own nature and flux. I have little doubt that Kern just might even have clans prepared to be used in the chance we go looking. Either way, until he says otherwise, exploration will just net us more information on our cavern.
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby thatguyvex on Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:51 pm

We can find more than just other minor clans and guilds doing this. Chel is in a state of upheaval at the moment and knowing who's doing what to whom and what the general manner of affairs are in the city is going to be useful and we'll probably find that out while we're searching those gray areas.

For when we search though is it the intention to specifically target gray areas on the map for general searches and just see what turns up, or will these actions be more generalized in wording and simply designate that we're searching for more minor clans and/or guilds within eastern Chel as a whole?
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Kitab Al'Ibar on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:19 pm

Notionally there are 60 or so minor clans, including ourselves. 59 when we are through with the Dvara'ka. }:3

Targetted searches with intent to reveal specific areas, that has been the way we conducted them in the past, and the approach taken when we found the Guild of Flowers. The current plan is to investigate the areas south
of the Svartelos and Kal'yantra, being on reasonable terms with those two, it makes sense to explore what else exists in that area.

The exploration, like everything else will take time, we don't want to overstretch ourselves, or Kern. We don't want to expose ourselves to too many other clans too quickly, or we would be asking for trouble, but steady progress at a pace we are all comfortable with needs to be made.
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Re: PROJECT FINDING NEMO *tm

Postby Finish on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:55 pm

60 Clans? Well that sounds like a bit too much. I mean you couldn't walk a meter in Chel without stumbling about a fortress if that's ture.
I guess many seats in the Gathering belong to Guilds or are empyt - because Clan goes and Clan comes. At least the VV would have been empty.

I guess we could find one Clan if we're lucky, but again the best thing is not to look for Clans but wait until they look for us. ;)
Alternativly we should search with a defined goal - like Wan'drille said. Like "Ask around if there are Clans who have knowledge about traditional summoning."
or "Ask for Clans who suffered heavily under the attacks of the Dvaraka and want them death." Kern probably wouldn't create them out of tin air bu perhaps
he has a concept in mind and would creat a Clan.
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