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we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby waffleferret on Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:25 pm

we need to start stock pileing food and otherthings big time! we need to have all the things we ned done for the war really soon as well as evacuation plans (evac as in farther in the city D:) and stuff this war is at the door step we need to have better defences, money, I mean heck this war could cause the econemy to crash for awhile ,(looks like food is taken care of but we should see how long it will really last) have a rations plan up watch towers more long range weapons besides rocks avalible and know whos doing what and where should an uber emergency take place D: ...(for more tamato rants about geting ready see confrencehall...)

things we need done
Plans:rations,defence,emergency,crisis exc.
money:the econemy may not hold
food: the harvesters seem to have it under control but we need to see how long what we have will last and plans if thier is anyway to make some in side our how.
defence: see the builders and warmaster to they are3 in chage of this

the first thing i think we need to think about is moeny we have minimal time to get it sence the econemy already apprears to be crashing

we need to start makeing money and starting a foundation for a solid income now , things will get rough very soon so we need to have a stockpile and plan already set up , we should have one by now its like picking between doing extra classes in school abnd geting a job to save up for collagte we need to save up for collage. if we want to keep money flow somehow in this war now the time to start trying it if not we need to have some ada bars stocked up for along showdown .
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby Thaluka2 on Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:28 pm

We didn't pick a side, if the Sarghress come and want us to sell them weapons we wouldn't be opposed to it. If they want to come and threaten us some more that's their business.
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby waffleferret on Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:53 pm

Thaluka2 wrote:We didn't pick a side, if the Sarghress come and want us to sell them weapons we wouldn't be opposed to it. If they want to come and threaten us some more that's their business.

thaluka we have picked sides if you think for one mommet we can sell to dar and not make the sharen mad you are wrong, even Anj'hali said she nknew we would be draged into this war eventuly you can't be in a war not be aginst some one its not possible unless your aginst your own self
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby Catriana on Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:27 pm

I think we should calm down a bit before doing anything hasty.

Defense is a given and is currently being worked on, so I'm not concerned about this.

Stockpiling food would be an excellent idea if we did not acquire food from our own lands. We do not outsource, so unless our home is actually being raided, we have little to worry about. Once they get past our defenses, the last thing we'll need to worry about is how much food is in our storage.

It is well known that money flow stagnates during wartime unless you are producing items of war. Since that is exactly what we are doing, I believe we will actually benefit. I know it upsets folks that we'll be producing items of war instead of market valuables but economy and cash flow goes with the demands of those paying and what's going on. Since we have a war coming up, many people will be purchasing items that we currently do not provide and holing up, hoping when the war comes down it won't be at their doorstep. We have our own land and we're rather isolated, so things that commoners need to worry about we do not so much.

So, establishing proper defense for our land is high priority along with getting folks trained. Since we will already be receiving an income from the Sharen for the items we produce for them, the true discussion to be had is what we will do once we've become strong enough to call better shots and hold our own?
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby waffleferret on Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:32 am

Catriana wrote:I think we should calm down a bit before doing anything hasty.

Defense is a given and is currently being worked on, so I'm not concerned about this.

Stockpiling food would be an excellent idea if we did not acquire food from our own lands. We do not outsource, so unless our home is actually being raided, we have little to worry about. Once they get past our defenses, the last thing we'll need to worry about is how much food is in our storage.

It is well known that money flow stagnates during wartime unless you are producing items of war. Since that is exactly what we are doing, I believe we will actually benefit. I know it upsets folks that we'll be producing items of war instead of market valuables but economy and cash flow goes with the demands of those paying and what's going on. Since we have a war coming up, many people will be purchasing items that we currently do not provide and holing up, hoping when the war comes down it won't be at their doorstep. We have our own land and we're rather isolated, so things that commoners need to worry about we do not so much.

So, establishing proper defense for our land is high priority along with getting folks trained. Since we will already be receiving an income from the Sharen for the items we produce for them, the true discussion to be had is what we will do once we've become strong enough to call better shots and hold our own?


we're giveing them weapons for training , training won't buy us stuff , if we eat abit less ..you know go on a 85% ration or something sence war is comeing around then we won't have to worry about oversourceing and its better to be prepared then sorry so geting ready ahead of time and assumeing the worst is better for us then assumeing the best we could get cut off from our lands hugry starveing people may be even more despreat to raid our lands
heck if the war ends and the two sides desided to posion each others food and watwer they could look to us and demand our help.

if something happens to our crops we will starve so haveing a plan B for our number one life saport is a good ideal

as long as we have money then we could rebuild what we may lose , or on a happyer note buy any land and businesses , and building that go bankrupt or lose thier land owner during the war even if the war dosen't hurt us the money could help us make mucho gains in the aftermath

repeat they are not paying us they are training us .
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby waffleferret on Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:50 am

now thatr i think about it sence the forge is out side the main ther we should have an emergency place put up for them inside so if we do get in a bad spot they can be safe
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby Anza'ka Anzo on Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:29 am

This is a serious decision we made but it was really made for us by the Sharen, since they are in charge of Chel (for the time being)

War preparations for isolation and growth of power base...

#1 The security of our food production sites must take absolute priority #1. Seriously, There is a good chance that a clan up river could poison the water and thus our food as well. Finding a secure water supply away from Chel and the battlefields needs to be found and if possible kept secret from other clans. Also, a true army really marches on its stomach. No food means hunger and a weak army, but worse is no water which means DEATH in a few days x_x We should consider making a place inside the city where we can build a Green House Complex this will make poisoning our food and water supplies harder.

Future Plans: Right now I'm really glad we are well away from Chel and do not hold lands there, this would have gotten us totally dragged into the future war. The situation looks bad for all the major clans and good for all us minor clans. If we play our cards right, if we build a larger military force. Then there is a good chance that when this war is over we can move in with our forces and take the lands of the defeated/shattered clans as our own.

#2 Our city and cavern needs to be turned into a well planned and dependable fortress. I'm thinking this: Stage One - IF a nasty enemy decides to conquer us and as the nasty army marches toward our fortress city. They come across snipers, traps, mines, pits, ambushes and angry critters to beat them down to size. Our goal at this stage is to disrupt, demoralize, raid, starve and tire them out with guerrilla tactics as I mentioned. Stage Two - The enemy has reached our fortress city and they face two or three layers of large walls with a number of large towers equipped with rapid firing crossbowmen, archers, grenadiers, boiling oil, traps, snipers, a few large crossbows (to take down big critters or golems). However before they can even assault the city they must make their way across a bunch of mazes with slick and oily rock, traps, snipers and ambush teams who take down the serious threats or supplies to the enemy; like taking down siege equipment, leaders, food and water supplies. Our goals are to continue the destruction and killings of valuable tools and leaders then the army will be in a state of angry chaos. Stage Three - Then the enemy army will begin its assault, when this happens the enemy should be in fewer numbers, chaotic, unorganized and stupid. If the first wall is breached by the enemy then we retreat to the second wall. Where the enemy will face more traps and snipers. After this we crush the enemy in a designed choke hold within the city using only our most talented and experienced warriors. Victory!

Building this city fortress will be no small endeavor and its not really a huge grand scale kinda thing, its more subtle and cunning.

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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby waffleferret on Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:26 pm

we can't build a green house because we are underground ^^;
we have a food storage built and a water supply is good sence it is up river then the poison will flow up stream away from us..our bigest advantage
I like your ideal for defence but alot of the stuff is simply out of our reach right now a wall , an inner wall , a few pits , long range weapons, towers and something to throw over the walls to prevent intruders is a smart ideal

also we need to save money so after the war we can make some choice grabs!
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby Anza'ka Anzo on Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:28 am

yes I know we are under ground but oddly some things still grow in chel. :B Theres also the fact that a pair of ninjas got in our city :[

Anyway the whole idea is to isolate the needed supplies and isolate ourselves to a point... until the war blows over or/and the situation changes to our advantage.
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby Whizzard on Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:53 am

waffleferret wrote:we can't build a green house because we are underground ^^;


We can. We can create lights that emit real sunlight... well almost real sunlight. Kyorls, Nals and Sullisinrune do it. What we lack is soil, the stuff we have is just powdered rock and only few plants can live off it. To create a greenhouse, we need to import dirt from surface and then create lamps that emit magical sunlight.
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Re: we've picked our side now we need to prepare for this war!

Postby Finish on Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:18 pm

Well who every would tried to poision the river would most likely cut his own flesh. Water is rare in Chel and the water of the river is used by the commoners and the Nal's as well. And most likely may other Clans need the water from the river to - the Sarghress for example doesn't seems to have there own water reservoir. So everybody who would poision the river risk the destruction of the whole city - including himself.

But just in case we should store some water. You never know what crazy ideas some people get. And in case of a siege we need water, too.
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