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Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby partner555 » Thu May 29, 2014 3:43 pm

Something theslowblitz said in another thread gave me the idea to start this thread.

So, which cameos do you happen to like? And if you do like one, why do you like them?

Speaking with bias here, I like Nuru'lara for being an example of an ex-Kyorl who adapted well to life in the Sarghress clan and how no one bats an eye at her being an ex-Kyorl or being tainted (except in that chibi but those aren't canon).

Speaking with less bias, I like Tsuris'lok. He was insane, but I found him likeable Ch39 onwards and his family life was incredible, especially his relationship with Velyndria. There was also his spectacular final moments where he became a Vel'Akar.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby Dalvyserran » Thu May 29, 2014 4:16 pm

Going through my cameo list, there's only a handful of cameos that stand out. They're the most noticeable ones out of the entire list but I won't name any names. They know who they are.

I put my own above all else, as anyone else would. I like Chigusa & Min'issya the most since I designed their outfits myself. Though, if my Beldrobbaen had the chance to appear, she would be prized above all else.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby Catriana » Thu May 29, 2014 11:55 pm

Hmmm, while I personally like my cameo characters (I did create them after all), I tried to tailor them so they wouldn't stand out all that much in the comic. Vicyl was this solemn angsty guy who had lost everything and was deep into self-loathing, and Riz'riia is just an elitist snob who prefers long nights with a boring history book than going drinking. She's probably read and loved all of Diva's dry, mind numbing books she wrote as Empress. The only reason she's a raider is because of the chance to encounter rare artifacts/lore. I don't really get cameos for people to like them, I get them because I want to.

As for my favorite cameos in the comic itself, that'd probably go to Verthandi (I like sneaky, complex women), Min'issya (I also like sassy women), I'm obviously biased toward Lok since he had an actual connection to Vicyl and he went out like a boss. And finally, I think I really liked Synathra because he understands and appreciates the booty.

Oh I almost forgot Araatoskr. That is one pretty dark elf. ♥
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby partner555 » Fri May 30, 2014 3:30 am

Dalvyserran wrote:Going through my cameo list, there's only a handful of cameos that stand out. They're the most noticeable ones out of the entire list but I won't name any names. They know who they are.

Can I know who they are? Even if it's in a PM?

Catriana wrote:Oh I almost forgot Araatoskr. That is one pretty dark elf. ♥

If we're using hotness as a reason for liking a cameo, then I'm going to say I like El'ysia, Min'issya, Visapa, Riz, Nuru, Ari'nara and Shinhwa because I find them hot.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby is-ness » Fri May 30, 2014 6:31 am

It's hard to pick favorites, but if I had to choose, I'd say Tsuris'lok, Riz'riia, Fia'nova, and Niphrendil. Tsuris'lok and Riz'riia were interesting to me from the moment they showed up and seemed incredibly well-thought out. That's not to say that other cameos weren't, it's just that these two seemed to go above and beyond and that makes them special--at least to me. As for Fia'nova, she had me at "dahling." And, some people find Niphrendil annoying but that's actually the reason that I like her. I think she's a brat, but a very entertaining one (I like Kalki for similar reason).
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby Catriana » Fri May 30, 2014 7:49 am

is-ness wrote:As for Fia'nova, she had me at "dahling."


Oh yeah, forgot about her. I wouldn't mind seeing her in action, considering that Pitdragon let it out that she's a Vel'akar. That and the Voldo claws. I really wouldn't mind seeing them Voldo claws tear some shiz up.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby partner555 » Fri May 30, 2014 8:27 am

Catriana wrote:
is-ness wrote:As for Fia'nova, she had me at "dahling."


Oh yeah, forgot about her. I wouldn't mind seeing her in action, considering that Pitdragon let it out that she's a Vel'akar. That and the Voldo claws. I really wouldn't mind seeing them Voldo claws tear some shiz up.

We might see that happen when the Kavahini comes flying in.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby is-ness » Fri May 30, 2014 8:38 am

Catriana wrote:
is-ness wrote:As for Fia'nova, she had me at "dahling."


Oh yeah, forgot about her. I wouldn't mind seeing her in action, considering that Pitdragon let it out that she's a Vel'akar. That and the Voldo claws. I really wouldn't mind seeing them Voldo claws tear some shiz up.


That..... I am suddenly imagining a terrifying cross between Voldo and Cruella Deville! *omfg* It would be miserable dahling, absolutely wretched!
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby theslowblitz » Fri May 30, 2014 11:24 am

Since you mentioned me by name :B

I went through the entire list of cameos by Dalvyserran, and here's the cameos that I found memorable:

Amanita

Cocky mad scientist vibe.

Odelia

Badass. Her straight-man role made her interaction with Kiel hilarious.

Verthandi

Her backstabbing vibe.Backstabbing again.

I had no idea whose side she was on for a while.

Her interaction with Snadhya. Again.

Her ultimate concern for the Bel'Drobbaen, despite her absolute fear of Snadhya gives her depth.

Chigusa and Chess'riia

Their protective relationship was moving. I was disappointed their roles ended after their introduction.

Perciva and Dindr'aen

Grandma touching. Enough said XD.

Feli'cia

Yes, I'm sure you'll kill Quaintana.

Kery'awa

[url]Badass.[/url] Unexpectedly pretty for a badass. I was genuinely worried for her.

Ran'diirk

Idiot death.

Balushizar

Friendship! Betrayal!

K'sava

Badass. Clever too.

Nuru'lara

Friendly. Functional character*

Die'tra

Ariel X Bear shipper.This.

Zith

Quainana.

Serena

Cool. Functional character.

Minalia

"Come to mommy, you perfect creation you!" Functional character.

Re'lontar

I don't need an arm to be badass.

Tsuris'lok

Tragic death.

Fame

Practically a main character**.

Jysmur

Boom!

Finol and Labranche

Lovable cowards.

Kyudosha

Cool.Functional character

Abi'reo

Tragic sort-of death. I hope she's alright.

Xy'tin

Good with babies.

Erusa'kel

Creepy, but interesting.

Kane'ohe

Yandere...

Cas'nilhus

Antagonist vibe. Andholy shit!

Petri'cho

:c

Merril'lin

Cloudcuckoolander.

Lysire

Kyo'varde's second-in-command.

Sativah

Loveable coward.

Yuh'le

Practically a main character. Though I sponsored her for Chapter 44, I didn't sponsor her for Chapter 46. Either someone else paid for her, or Kern reclaimed the character.

Velyndria

Cool.

Niphrendil

Adorable evil.

Ydna

That wasn't flying...

Sasi'rael

Kalki's girlfriend.

Dycle

Stupid death II.

Notes:

Recent events are disproportionately memorable, so recent characters disproportionately appear.

*Functional character: Even though personality-wise they don't particularly stand out, they introduce a new aspect of the world, and the interestingness rubs off.
**Practically a main character: Can believably pass as one of Kern's characters.

General reasons I like characters:

Interaction with main characters, or at least characters I like: Fame and Kiel, Die'tra and Faen, etc.
Plot-relevant characters: Verthandi, Casnilhus etc.
Funny: Grandma-touching, Quainana etc.
Human interest: Verthandi, Nishi'kanta's daughters, etc.
Tragedy/Death: Ran'diirk, Tsuris'lok etc.
Archetypes I like: Too many

Things I don't think work:
Battle scenes: Everyone blurs together, unless they do something awesome or die horribly.
Cameo-heavy scenes in general: Cameos should be related to known and liked characters. Too many cameos and it's hard to care.

It's under half, but eh. Cameos work, I think.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby partner555 » Fri May 30, 2014 11:59 am

theslowblitz wrote:Since you mentioned me by name :B

It was in the "Have you lost interest in certain characters" thread, just so you know.


*Functional character: Even though personality-wise they don't particularly stand out, they introduce a new aspect of the world, and the interestingness rubs off.

Could you elaborate on that? Which aspect of the world did they introduce, to you anyway?
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby theslowblitz » Fri May 30, 2014 12:29 pm

partner555 wrote:
theslowblitz wrote:

Could you elaborate on that? Which aspect of the world did they introduce, to you anyway?


Hm, the characters I listed as functional are Nuru, Minalia, Serena and Kyudosha. Nuru introduced Ys. Minalia introduced the ground-level politics in the districts. Serena introduced modern technology of "whispering tower" (I thought it was really cool at the time. Though it wasn't explored as much as I'd like.) Kyudosha introduced how messengers worked (and what a cute bird!)

They had specific, archetypal roles to play (tour guide, challenge to be lawful or to be good, foreign merchant, messenger), and played them well, and didn't outlive their welcome. Archetypes should be used more, I think. Trying to be original is great, if there's space to familiarise the readers to the characters. If not, archetypes quickly endear themselves to a reader who is already familiar with them. The quirks can be added later.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby partner555 » Fri May 30, 2014 3:04 pm

theslowblitz wrote:
partner555 wrote:
theslowblitz wrote:

Could you elaborate on that? Which aspect of the world did they introduce, to you anyway?


Hm, the characters I listed as functional are Nuru, Minalia, Serena and Kyudosha. Nuru introduced Ys. Minalia introduced the ground-level politics in the districts. Serena introduced modern technology of "whispering tower" (I thought it was really cool at the time. Though it wasn't explored as much as I'd like.) Kyudosha introduced how messengers worked (and what a cute bird!)

They had specific, archetypal roles to play (tour guide, challenge to be lawful or to be good, foreign merchant, messenger), and played them well, and didn't outlive their welcome. Archetypes should be used more, I think. Trying to be original is great, if there's space to familiarise the readers to the characters. If not, archetypes quickly endear themselves to a reader who is already familiar with them. The quirks can be added later.

Oh.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby Dalvyserran » Fri May 30, 2014 8:48 pm

Okay, I admit I like a couple cameos very much.

Verthandi, Jiaan, ran'diirk, Kail'odian, Ab'ireo, Miner'a & Lysire'indris for serious cameos

farahang, tur'geis, tsuris'lok, feli'cia and rafal'za for silly cameos

They're all pretty neat and memorable for me
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby Lordpanther14 » Sat May 31, 2014 3:09 am

My favorite Cameo's are:

Perciva and Dindr'aen
They were quite fun and I loved how they interacted with Diva.

Fame because I'm a fan of Rocker Chicks.

Xy'tin which was mine and turned out wonderfully in the pages she showed up in.
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Re: Which cameo characters do you like and why?

Postby Junglefowl26 » Sat May 31, 2014 3:41 pm

Mira'linn: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... ralinn.jpg
Combination of professional soldier and lover of frilly dresses.

Reka: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... a_news.jpg
Badass sniper lady.

Jak'kiah: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... h-news.jpg
Excellent straight (wo)man to a squad of goofs.

Nul'Indra: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mald5 ... 1_1280.jpg
Super enthusiastic, super cute dark elf fallen legion archer

Syrak: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... k_news.jpg
Nerdy and overly polite, just like the kind of characters I like to make.

Ilmssyn: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... n_news.jpg
Nice to Vaelia, interested in other cultures, and badass in the face of capture and torture.

Skwerk: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... u_news.jpg
While sadly no match for young boys in combat, she is adorable, funny, and a really good scout.

Vual'Rissa: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... a_news.jpg
Sharks are my favorite animal, and I love her enthusiasm for the strange.

Vierreana: http://24.media.tumblr.com/d78092404986 ... o1_500.jpg
Didn't do much, but certainly looks badass.

Nemea'tari: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... 9x1024.jpg
Hilarious first appearance, cool chase scene later.

Sorn'Mal: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... l-news.jpg
Cool appearance, and I like his protectiveness of his big scary dragon.

Chess'riia: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... ssriia.jpg
Love her fiery personality and her protectiveness of her family.

Oiloss'lin: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... n_news.jpg
Excellent warrior, intelligent, loving mother.

Balu'shizar: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... r_news.jpg
Memorable appearance, and I like the irony of her going from slave maker to slave, and not minding much at all. Pretty boys either way.

Vicriina'tana: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... natana.jpg
How can you not love someone who kills people while sitting on a hand knitt bunny, and names her weapons after important political figures.

Tsuris'lok - no explanation needed. We all know.

Fame: same as Lok.

Kor'rin: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... Korrin.jpg
I love the scavenged armor, the love of snakes, the band, the tatoo, and being a Kiel loyalist. So everything really.

Kyu'Dosha...though I am biased.

Niva'li: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... i_news.jpg
Sneaky feral warrior.

Cair'deirene: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9wdz ... 1_1280.jpg
"I'm small and cute" Plus, it was interesting to see a Sul battle commander.

Ab'iro: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... o_news.jpg
Awesome warpaint, outfit, and she has an interesting take on the war.

Lajvati: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... i_news.jpg
"Rocks make excellent weapons"

Iniiria - sometimes, it is hard to remember that she is even a cameo.

Lythn: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... Linthn.jpg
Works hard, plays hard.

Kale'shido: http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/wp-c ... eshido.jpg
Gotta love a compassionate warrior, especially when they have a big mace but just wants to be a house husband.

Pretty much all the Kavahini look awesome.

...also, despite the giant list, many of favorite concept art characters are ones who haven't actually made an appearance in the story.
Especially these two: http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2 ... 779hv3.jpg
and this girl: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/ ... 6zg0dx.jpg
also: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/ ... 6xsg1w.jpg
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/ ... 6vvzen.jpg
and, of course: http://drowtales.deviantart.com/art/The ... -355746123
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