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Chapter 54 : page 38

Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Kern » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:50 pm

Blame is thrown and a sense of doubt grows in the newly made alliance of colonies.
It is a messy situation and things couldn't go easy forever. Ys was a smooth step they thought would be a challenge yet this easy tiny town proved to be a greater challenge. They were not prepared for the legion to catch up so fast. And the consequence of fighting back is to drag the colony into becoming a battleground. Note, chiri is still pissed, she is just blaming herself for the failure as well. For a seer its got to be a big source of doubt to be able to predict the future when it actually matters.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Najah » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:01 am

Having Ashwaren on board is a major drawback. How much you wanna bet the moment she wants something and is denied it she'll try that empathy shit?
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Ardan Styyx » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:10 am

Hard to tell what Felyn could have done anyway if she has "followed her instincts"...

A good thing that somehow Chiri is focused on her seer issue - which is a legitimate concern but still, better than frying everybody onboard.

Still, they are in a damn mess, and Ariel might need to build a commando action (with Chiri?) if she really wants to free the hostages and keep her word to the Ssu's.

Yeah, definitely, this strike on the legion was really NOT the one to miss. The gunners should be lashed (at least), just like old times.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby SzordrinZaphresz » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:37 am

For "Standard procedure", it sure hasn't happened all that often... The last time hostage taking was done was way. way back when The Sharen did it against the Il'hardro and the Sarghress were the rescuers.

So why Kel said, and knew, that the Legion would do it is a bit odd.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby The14th » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:49 am

Hmmm, it is weird that with two seers present neither had an inkling of what was going to happen.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Dalvyserran » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:03 am

If the Legion were like an irl army, they would be having runners working around the clock to echange informatuon with Chel.

That means that word would have passed that the Kyorl'solenurn colony harbored the traitors.

Which means the entire clan could be in danger of the Alliance's might, because of this decision Ariel made to land here.

Also, these drowussu are technically hostages in their own right.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Mizu » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:06 am

Ardan Styyx wrote:Hard to tell what Felyn could have done anyway if she has "followed her instincts"...

A good thing that somehow Chiri is focused on her seer issue - which is a legitimate concern but still, better than frying everybody onboard.

Still, they are in a damn mess, and Ariel might need to build a commando action (with Chiri?) if she really wants to free the hostages and keep her word to the Ssu's.

Yeah, definitely, this strike on the legion was really NOT the one to miss. The gunners should be lashed (at least), just like old times.


If they sent them packing immediately instead of humoring them with an audience they would have been gone by the time the legion arrived and then they would have ignored the village to keep on following them.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Junglefowl26 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:52 am

Welp, they aren't exactly winning any hearts and minds here :(

Also rather ironic that their presence brought about the very doom that they were proposing an alliance against.

Hmmm....the lack of visions is curious...in the past we had only seen seer abilities blocked by other seers...course, I suppose they can't pick up on anything or else they would be invincible. Still, wonder what determines what they can pick up and what they can't.

Hostages are standard practice? I don't remember them coming up in any of the Sarghress-Sharen war scenes. Plus, I can't really think of many other times they would be in a situation like this, so I am surprised they have standard procedure on it.

"I should have trusted my instincts..." Wait, didn't you? I remember her freaking out and demanding they leave. She didn't agree to anything until the attack was under way.

"That is a promise you may not be able to keep." In all fairness, Ariel just promised to do what she could, not that she would succeed.

Course, if the Wolf Pack can't do anything to help, what is the point of allying with them? And alliance is supposed to be for mutual defense - this is just painting a target on your back.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Lewa » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:06 am

Is Chakri wiping off her facepaint in panel 2?
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby PSadlon » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:03 am

Damn it, Ash. That did not help matters. Are you not as good at reading situation as has been or were you too upset by your sextoy getting injured to give a damn?

Hopefully the lack of vision means the loss of life was less than the devastation would indicate rather than there was means of preventing the death & devastation & you have no future. That said the people in the balloon do not necessarily agree with the procedure, that said that there is a standard procedure and Ariel's Sargs know it means they can possibly use that to their advantage.

Kel needs to shut up & listen to his boss now. "Everything we can do" implicitly acknowledges there might be a way to succeed but they are going to make the attempt anyway. The pooch is already screwed and it's now a do what you can to make things better before the people you just got involved get any more fightfully pissed situation. The fact he already squandered good will and trust in trying to leverage the fact the Sargs were attacking is already a strike against him and frankly he doesn't need more.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Junglefowl26 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:42 am

Lewa wrote:Is Chakri wiping off her facepaint in panel 2?

:@

You are right.

So it does come off.

Drat, that means I can't use this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S8poOaSlGc
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby El Bandito » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:51 am

Someone tend to Kel.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Ardan Styyx » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:26 pm

I say : go hide somewhere off sight and prepare the next move. If you know Sang is going to take hostages, the only way you'll get out victorious of this mess is to work on a plan to rescue them, and demonstrate you care for people and are more efficient than the Sargs Alliance followers.

You've proven than when carefully planing and working together you could do a great job (although Kyo decided to go with her own assassin's agenda, but that's another story), so DO THAT. Ariel, stop improvising and gather a planification team, then take the right decision (and remind Ash that despite her being century years old, YOU are in charge; people just witnessed what happens when she takes decisions on her own...).

I'll go for a diversion made by the Mimians and the ship, while a small elite team (composed by Ariel, Chiri, Faen, Shan, and some others - you pick) go rescue the hostages (and get rid of/ capture Sang as a secondary mission).

And oh... flay the gunners. Just because if they had done their job properly, you would not be in this f...g mess in the first place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYZoxY3sawE
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby SzordrinZaphresz » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:58 pm

Mizu wrote:
If they sent them packing immediately instead of humoring them with an audience they would have been gone by the time the legion arrived and then they would have ignored the village to keep on following them.


Um. Nope. The Legion would have gone in there and taken hostages anyway, if not just killed everybody. They sent the wolves in before they even got over the hill to see the airship.

If there were "runners," then Chiri and the other seer would have gotten a "vision" about the attack because Sang and the runners would have been thinking about it. We've established that's how it works.

For them to NOT receive a vision is telling. Maybe Sang and the others chanced upon the airship by luck as they were scouting the colonies within flying range of Ys, and that's why the cannons weren't in place.
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Re: Chapter 54 : page 38

Postby Mizu » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:34 pm

SzordrinZaphresz wrote:
Mizu wrote:
If they sent them packing immediately instead of humoring them with an audience they would have been gone by the time the legion arrived and then they would have ignored the village to keep on following them.


Um. Nope. The Legion would have gone in there and taken hostages anyway, if not just killed everybody. They sent the wolves in before they even got over the hill to see the airship.

If there were "runners," then Chiri and the other seer would have gotten a "vision" about the attack because Sang and the runners would have been thinking about it. We've established that's how it works.

For them to NOT receive a vision is telling. Maybe Sang and the others chanced upon the airship by luck as they were scouting the colonies within flying range of Ys, and that's why the cannons weren't in place.


Are you seriously suggesting they didn't know the air ship was there before they unleashed an attack? You think they are just going around wasting resources attacking random villages and then checking to see if it has the air ship there after the attack starts? If so why didn't any of the other colonies get attacked as well?

Remember that time Chiri's adopted mom was about to be killed and Chiri completely saw it coming ahead of time instead of only finding out as it was happening? Me either, because their visions are fickle things outside of their control that don't have a 100% chance of triggering. If I had to guess though, it didn't trigger because they weren't really the target. They were scenery that happened to be around the actual target they were thinking of attacking.
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