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Chapter 53 : page 13

Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby Kern » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:41 am

Chiri finally break out and vent out everything she had repressed.
Shan meant well but she doesn,t to be hugged, and comforted when there's that fire within. In this case the fire needs to get out somehow.
as for the tid bit of backstory, many may not remember so here's a reminder: Chiri's father is an elf, her mother died and she ended up adopted into the clan. She spent years doubting her own purity because of her father, until the day the previous holy mother told her it was silly to worry about it , for she knew some among her own judicators were just like Chiri's father.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby Pitdragon » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:42 am

Abandon ship, abandon ship! :A
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby Junglefowl26 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:15 am

Oof. Poor everyone involved. :(

This is why it is important to discuss your feelings and doubts ahead of time instead of holding it in.


....And also to always use protection unless you are specifically trying to have a kid.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby Dalvyserran » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:17 am

well, nobody really asked Chiri what she wanted
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby gd1 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:58 am

Pitdragon wrote:Abandon ship, abandon ship! :A


Damage control teams to the main deck! Put out the fires!
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby Smokehammer » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:09 am

Dont want kids? Dont have sex. Its pretty damn easy, so yeah Chiri kinda asked for this because Im 100% certain Shan isnt a rapist.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby almondbiscuit » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:26 am

Smokehammer wrote:Dont want kids? Dont have sex. Its pretty damn easy, so yeah Chiri kinda asked for this because Im 100% certain Shan isnt a rapist.


As many times as she's been stabbed, fallen from a major height, or been set on fire by now, it's not totally unreasonable that she just assumed that she *couldn't* have kids anymore. Sure, she should have had it checked for absolutely certain, but it wouldn't be the first time someone who'd undergone a lot of body trauma didn't think to do so.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby Smokehammer » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:55 am

Perhaps. But I dont think Chiri's adverse to the idea of having a child. More specifically, she doesnt want to have a light elf child. Im going to assume from the dialog that she was assigned temporarily to the colony, so if she had such an issue then she couldve easily avoided any such problem by simple abstinence until her return to the underworld.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby SoulCode » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:08 am

Chri having doubts and other natural emotions makes me like her even more.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby QuakeIV » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:39 am

Shan revealing that he somehow knew it was a girl was a massive mistake. He either should have told her he was acting on prophecies to begin with, or shouldn't have been so shit at lying. This is the first repercussion of that, but I'm surprised chiri agreed to this at all to begin with.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby The14th » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:48 am

Well if' she's gonna get married, she might as well be honest about her feelings.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby El Bandito » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:25 am

Yes... let it all out.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby firegold » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:02 am

QuakeIV wrote:Shan revealing that he somehow knew it was a girl was a massive mistake. He either should have told her he was acting on prophecies to begin with, or shouldn't have been so shit at lying. This is the first repercussion of that, but I'm surprised chiri agreed to this at all to begin with.


Is that confirmed yet though? I took it to be wishful thinking. Sometimes people build up an image of what their family will look like in their head, and in a matriarchal society it's natural to want girls. Like, "We'll have a house with a white picket fence, a boy named Joe, a girl named Lucy, and a cat and a dog." I don't think Shan would lie to Chiri about something that big, it was probably just poor word choice.
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby QuakeIV » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:04 am

Then why didn't he contradict her?
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Re: Chapter 53 : page 13

Postby Pitdragon » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:02 am

I think he misunderstood where Chiri was coming from with that. That whole line should be taken as a full sentence instead of a change of direction or admittance of anything, and it does if you trade the "well" for a "maybe." "I thought maybe she's going to be female." The well is a pause, possibly because he felt sheepish admitting it and almost backed out of saying that. Perhaps having someone that supposedly sees the future ask you how you know something that is yet to be determined would make you feel a bit silly bringing up a gut feeling.

Chiri instead assumed he knew the gender in her question, and his response just added to that feeling that this isn't just a happy coincidence. That the reason for her being sent up there was really this. Bringing up Ana is the biggest part of it. If Ana foresaw this and sent her on this path, then she did so without thinking of Chiri's feelings. She played the role of every other ruler of the Kyorl, Holy Mother or Judicator, before her. And didn't think of the consequences of how that child would feel growing up, and how Chiri would feel reliving that pain while learning her mother's. Again, likely not what Ana intended (she foresaw nothing and just assigned Chiri and Shan there to help guide the colony), but Chiri doesn't know that and comes from a clan where she should expect what she thinks is happening.

But the Shan bit is less about that and more about how he's stepped up. Looks great to us that he wants to build a house, have a joining ceremony, even picked a name for the kid... but all of that he did or said without really sitting with Chiri and deciding it together. Well, the asking her to go through the ceremony perhaps is something still to propose, but eh, perhaps the way he did it was too sudden, as if the child was his only motivation to do it. Saying he may have a name in mind when she asked shows she's thinking he's gone ahead and decided that without her... and was right. It isn't a cruel thing, hence why she kept it bottled up, she knew he wasn't doing it to be controlling or to be thoughtless. But it still just adds on to the frustration she feels. Unfortunately, he's there to blow up on and not Ana, and she tried not to blow up on him for that reason but... eh, there are limits, and being told "not to worry" and being reminded of yet another thing he went ahead and did just sort of hit that limit.
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