Hoh boy, lot of discussion this time.
- I think Ash has a point here. What does her backing mean? The anti-Vals won't care. Even with people who back Ariel, what does Ash mean to them? What allies does Ash have among clan leaders beyond Quain? Sure, she used to have a lot of political influence due to all the connections she made partying (plus blackmail?) but now - well she has been the major backer of anti-Val rebellion, and she can't count on her kid's connections due to the traitors in her clan. Come to think of it, she doesn't even seem to have much influence in her own clan anymore....
Frankly, her support might hurt more than help at this point.
Hope this means Kel isn't too stuck in the past to recognize the changing political realities of the situation.....
She's very casually manipulative, and I'm not even sure if she thinks about it anymore. I think she's legitimately interested in Kel'noz, now. Not for anything deep, but because she's reeling from losing Quain and rebounding hard.
Yeah, that is something that stood out to me. Just, talking so longingly about Quain's fire, then discussing Kel's.....well, for one I guess it means she is attracted to passionate people with strong goals, but it does seem kind of...unhealthy replace-y...? Not sure how to say it.
Also thinking about it....Kel is probably the most like his mother isn't he, though less emotional and more calculating. Or does that make him the least, and Mel is more similar even though her passions lead her in the opposite direction? Bah, forget I said anything.
riflow wrote:Come on ashie don't start banging quains kids too. :'D next she'll be after one of the grandkids when they're grown up.
Ariel is almost grown up already.....
IkaikaKekai wrote:I could think of a much sleazier threeway to renew the alliance. And I expect to see it in daydream soonish. Now I just thought of a 4 way that's not quite as sleazy but it could be depending how heavy the Empaths make it.
Do i even want to know?
Ash: "We can share."
I can imagine Faen in this scenario being all
[quote=Smokehammer"]Its actually disturbing - the lack of F**ks given everywhere about Quain's death.
Presumably her kids hated her because, well... read the comic.
Presumably her friends were sick of her pig-headed irrational bullshit.
Presumably her Clan hated her because they were betrayed by her sort of going Val on them.
Presumably Ashie's just hot and cold with everyone because she's so old she wouldnt recognize a real emotion if it ran up and bit her in her fat ass.
Presumably Ariel's still on the "Whut, no!" Moses train of shock.
And presumably most of her "black glob friend demons" (DTs Fans) are expecting her to suddenly appear alive and well two chapters from now because she kicked Charon in the crotch, drank all the water in the Stix then hopped on Cerberus and rode him until he dropped dead back to life. [/quote]
Well, I dunno, Ash did seem to have geniune emotions last page, but yeah it seems a giant complex mess with her so maybe even she doesn't know how she feels.
But still - she lived a lonely life dedicated only to a cause, so I suppose it makes sense she died a lonely death, with people mostly thinking how it will affect the cause.
To quote Zathras: "At least there is symmetry."
I'd pay real money to see that happen.
Glad you liked it!
Dalvyserran wrote:Ashie makes more sense---they know each other somewhat, and kel can keep his clan together that way. Waes'soloth and Kel... Two completely unrelated characters with nothing to gain
Don't forget ideological opposites!
Relatedly, Belds are dying at least in part because of their high standards for the bloodlines of their mates, and Kel is the son of a mercenary, and not even one that was born Val.
I am surprised Weas didn't flay Ischa for suggesting it.
Wonder if Ischa is in the colony because Waes banished her there for suggesting it over and over.
[quote=riflow].....Also makes me curious if any other illharesses have screwed each other (or otherwise offered the other their mates). :'D perhaps a thought for a rainy day.[/quote]
I think it has been said that Ash and Zala would go looking for mate together...maybe they got involved in a three way at some point? I wouldn't put it past them, as long as Zala is bi.
sunhawk wrote:do you think that sometime in the future there will be a Ariel vs Mel battle over the Sarghress clan?
I mean, Mel doesn't want it, no one in the Sarghress wants it, clans matter less now anyway, Mel super wants her children a whole lot....I I....I mean I just...really hard to imagine such a thing happening.
As far as we know, Kel'noz the "political ho" belongs to fanfiction and Daydream only. We know he is friends with Ini'riira and Salan'dara, but we know nothing of him being used as a sexual bargaining chip.
Hmmm...I could have sworn it said somewhere he has had a lot of kids, but come to think of it, I am not sure where. The only one we know of is Sarnel's mother (though I should totally bring his space age daughter over to canon heh heh....)
suntiger wrote:Edit: @ sunhawk Kel'noz is a high arts user with an earth sorcery as far as I know.
That is, his sorcery/natural talent is for earth and beyond that he has studied the use of other sorceries that he doesn't have a direct affinity for, mainly but not exclusively via foci attuned to the respective element.
I thought his natural affinity was light...hmm....once again, I am not sure where that is from though.